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Muslim jailed for killing British queen’s swan to break fast
daily times pakistan ^ | 11/22/06 | AFP

Posted on 11/22/2006 3:55:53 PM PST by voletti

LONDON: A Muslim man who was so hungry while fasting during Ramazan that he killed a swan to eat was jailed for two months at a court in Britain on Wednesday. Shamsu Mian (52) killed the mute swan at a boating pond in Llandudno on September 25 – only the second day of fasting in Britain. All mute swans in Britain belong to the sovereign, Queen Elizabeth II, a historical quirk dating from the 12th century. When challenged by police, Mian said, “I am a Muslim, I am fasting, I needed to eat.” Llandudno Magistrates Court heard that Mian had blood on his shirt and white feathers in his beard. Prosecutor Jim Neary said, “When interviewed he said, ‘I was hungry, I had to eat the swan so I killed it, I stabbed it. I did nothing wrong, it was just a bird, I needed to eat’.” “The officers told him the swan was the property of the queen and he replied, ‘I hate the queen, I hate this country’.” Judge Andrew Shaw told Mian, “You killed a swan at night. It was a cruel and reprehensible act. I don’t know how it died; there seems to be some speculation that you bit it, but I accept you killed it with a knife. It is a taboo act and the only sentence I can pass is one of imprisonment.” Miah had pleaded guilty to intentionally killing a wild bird and possessing a bladed article. AFP


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KEYWORDS: culturewar; london; londonistan; muteswan; queen; queenelizabeth; queenelizabethii; ramadan; royalfamily; swan; uk
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1 posted on 11/22/2006 3:55:54 PM PST by voletti
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‘I hate the queen, I hate this country’

Wouldn't this comment of his be of a greater cause for concern?

2 posted on 11/22/2006 3:57:27 PM PST by PeterFinn (Support the Troops by supporting their mission.)
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To: PeterFinn

‘I hate the queen, I hate this country’

Someone forcing him to stay there?


3 posted on 11/22/2006 4:00:41 PM PST by BW2221
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To: PeterFinn; voletti
I hate the queen, I hate this country’

Here's hoping that the Queen and the British people regain their sense of identity, their sense of history, and their sense of porportion, and, developing a sentiment mutual to the MoHamHeads, act accordingly.

.

4 posted on 11/22/2006 4:03:56 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: voletti

I think the appropriate sentence in this case is.... banishment!

let him kill and eat some of Iran's mute swans!


5 posted on 11/22/2006 4:04:47 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: voletti

This story is hilariously absurd on so many levels.


6 posted on 11/22/2006 4:07:02 PM PST by SolidWood
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To: voletti

It some how missed me how eating unclean raw swan is fasting


7 posted on 11/22/2006 4:09:51 PM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: BW2221

Maybe he hates the queen and is waiting for Prince Chaz to take over. Aren't Prince C. and his critter closet Muslims? (I think I read the somewhere -- maybe here.)


8 posted on 11/22/2006 4:10:12 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: SolidWood

Swan, it's the other white meat.


9 posted on 11/22/2006 4:11:15 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: voletti
How about jail and deportation?
10 posted on 11/22/2006 4:12:25 PM PST by CremeSaver
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To: voletti

No other Schwans around?


11 posted on 11/22/2006 4:13:15 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: voletti

Is this for real? Not from the Onion?

...blood on his shirt and white feathers in his
beard....

He ate it raw???


12 posted on 11/22/2006 4:13:58 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Lynn might disagree with you there. ;^)


13 posted on 11/22/2006 4:14:03 PM PST by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks...what do you get when you cross nancy pelosi and islam? viet nam)
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To: voletti

Did any Londoners notice the population of stray dogs taking a precipitous decline during that same period? Could just be a coincidence ...


14 posted on 11/22/2006 4:14:13 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: voletti

Back in the days when kings were kings, for poaching the king's game that muslim would have lost HIS head!;)


15 posted on 11/22/2006 4:14:46 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: voletti
"I don’t know how it died; there seems to be some speculation that you bit it, but I accept you killed it with a knife. It is a taboo act and the only sentence I can pass is one of imprisonment.”

The killing of a swan by a muslim is more threatening to the British than the fact this mohammedan echoed the voices of most of his brethren when he declared in court to a judge that he hates the Queen and hates England. How utterly absurd that the British don't mind having their lives and civilization threatened by mohammedans as much as they are troubled about the welfare of their swans.

16 posted on 11/22/2006 4:15:06 PM PST by TheCrusader
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To: voletti

Let us recognize brother Shamsu Mian, a member-in-good-standing of Savages "R" Us since 1954...


17 posted on 11/22/2006 4:15:29 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: voletti
“I am a Muslim, I am fasting, I needed to eat.”

kinda like

"I am a Muslim, I am peaceloving, I needed to blow something up."

18 posted on 11/22/2006 4:17:07 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: voletti

"Swan, it's the other white meat."

My first thought was, was he really going to eat a swan? A SWAN?

Don't they have grocery stores there with food in them?

"I was fasting, I needed to eat"

When you're fasting, aren't you suppose to not eat?


19 posted on 11/22/2006 4:20:48 PM PST by mutley
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To: mutley

Apparently raw swan doesn't count.


20 posted on 11/22/2006 4:22:52 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: voletti

Too many insane aspects of this story to touch on any one.

The guy's nuts.


21 posted on 11/22/2006 4:23:45 PM PST by bannie
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To: mutley

#19. Apparently, he was cheating on his fast.


22 posted on 11/22/2006 4:26:30 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: fat city
“I am a Muslim, I am fasting, I needed to eat.”

Must be one of those Al Sharpton/Cindy Sheehan type fasts.

"You call that fasting! That's not fasting! I'll show you how to fast. You really gotta tighten your belt."

23 posted on 11/22/2006 4:26:58 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: mutley

I think Ramadan fasting is only between sunrise and sunset or something like that, so you can only eat during the short period in between. Maybe, and I'm just speculating here, the fasting period was going to begin again soon and he wanted to get something to eat during the "grace period" but couldn't make it the store or whatever. Are their 24 hour grocery stores in Britain. That's just my hypothesis. Anyway, what better way to arrest someone with a 7th century mentality than with a 12th century law?


24 posted on 11/22/2006 4:29:03 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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To: Defender2

"#19. Apparently, he was cheating on his fast."

Yes, BUT A SWAN? Couldn't he slip into a grocery and buy a chicken?


25 posted on 11/22/2006 4:30:13 PM PST by mutley
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To: marsh_of_mists

I'm thinking that even if I wasn't the most pious muslim I would just slink across town and grab some fish and chips. Killing and cooking a swan is a lot of work.


26 posted on 11/22/2006 4:30:40 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: voletti

Sounds to me like he is really dissatisfied with being Muslim, and is taking it out on the queen.


27 posted on 11/22/2006 4:32:23 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: marsh_of_mists

"and he wanted to get something to eat during the "grace period" but couldn't make it the store or whatever."

Muslims aren't allowed to have refrigerators either?


28 posted on 11/22/2006 4:32:26 PM PST by mutley
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To: voletti

When interviewed he said, ‘I was hungry, I had to eat the swan so I killed it, I stabbed it. I did nothing wrong, it was just a bird, I needed to eat’.”

are all mooslims this stupid?


29 posted on 11/22/2006 4:35:04 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: USNBandit

"Killing and cooking a swan is a lot of work."

Someone that has never dressed a bird or seen it done, have no idea. Scalding and plucking takes awhile.


30 posted on 11/22/2006 4:35:15 PM PST by mutley
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To: USNBandit

Killing and cooking a swan is a lot of work.



Who said he cooked it.


31 posted on 11/22/2006 4:37:17 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: voletti

Robin Hood poached the King's deer. He wasn't caught right away, but when he was it was not a fun time. Do not poach the King's property.


32 posted on 11/22/2006 4:38:22 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: MayflowerMadam
It is said that Prince Charles has secretly converted to Islam.

This claim was put forward by no less a personage than the grand mufti of Cyprus: "Did you know that Prince Charles has converted to Islam. Yes, yes. He is a Muslim. I can't say more. But it happened in Turkey. Oh, yes, he converted all right. When you get home check on how often he travels to Turkey. You'll find that your future king is a Muslim

http://www.meforum.org/article/356

If he has he isn't telling his mother. He is very interested in Muslims and admires the "religion of peace". I think hes a horse's a$$. Cindy Sheehan and Prince Charles look quite a bit alike too.
33 posted on 11/22/2006 4:39:36 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: mutley

#25. He tried to cheat stealthily and cost free but got caught. Remember if it were you or I, we'd be grilled over the coals for something like this, but apparently muslims like EnemacRATS (democRATS) can get away with anything. You know, ....the double standard. Two months, stating he hated the Queen, hated England....Hell....send him to Iran so he can cheat on his fast by killing and eating Aji's mute swans. hehehe.

Believe it, I chuckled a lot with a little sarcsm in writing this particular post.

:-)


34 posted on 11/22/2006 4:39:42 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: voletti

Reminds me of an old saying;

" 'Tis said that swans sing before they die

"Twere no bad thing that some men die before they sing"


Give me some ol' time 19th century British rule and colonial civility..........hurry.....there is no time to lose.

sp


35 posted on 11/22/2006 4:40:30 PM PST by sodpoodle (I have no idea how I got here - but I like it and I plan to stay.)
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To: voletti

"Shamsu Mian (52) killed the mute swan at a boating pond.."

The swan is now mute for sure.


36 posted on 11/22/2006 4:41:04 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: SolidWood

I was sure it was the Onion....
susie


37 posted on 11/22/2006 4:43:46 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: voletti

"Swan upping" is the annual ceremonial census of royal swans:

http://www.thamesweb.co.uk/windsor/windsor1999/upping.html


38 posted on 11/22/2006 4:44:51 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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Leave the country then, you filthy f---er!!!


39 posted on 11/22/2006 4:45:45 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (lookw)
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To: mutley

But he had had feathers in his beard, so maybe he didn't bother to pluck it.
susie


40 posted on 11/22/2006 4:46:31 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: USNBandit
"Must be one of those Al Sharpton/Cindy Sheehan type fasts."

LOL- didn't Saddam pull one of those fasts too- from breakfast to lunch?

Old-time-Catholics-during-Lent would eat these guys for lunch when it comes to fasting.

41 posted on 11/22/2006 4:46:42 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: PeterFinn

‘I hate the queen, I hate this country’

Of course he runs the country as he sees fit.


42 posted on 11/22/2006 4:48:16 PM PST by GoforBroke
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To: indylindy

Perhaps he's following Cindy al Sheehan's method of fasting.


43 posted on 11/22/2006 4:52:32 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: voletti

one really interesting aspect of this article is that a Pakistani newspaper would spell the holiday "Ramizan".


44 posted on 11/22/2006 4:52:33 PM PST by drhogan
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To: voletti

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry over this article.Laugh because I can picture this idiot with blood drippin out of the corners of his mouth and a beard full of feathers.Cry because there's supposed to be a billion of these losers in the world !!!


45 posted on 11/22/2006 4:55:10 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: proud_yank

I can do that. OH, I don't mean eating raw unclean swan. I just mean I can wait 4 hours between servings!


46 posted on 11/22/2006 4:57:26 PM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: brytlea

"But he had had feathers in his beard, so maybe he didn't bother to pluck it. susie"

That mental image is too damn funny. A muslim, with feathers in his beard, from eating a dead royal swan. LOL A SWAN!


47 posted on 11/22/2006 4:57:50 PM PST by mutley
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To: voletti

Worst fast ever.


48 posted on 11/22/2006 4:58:52 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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"‘I hate the queen, I hate this country’.”

Maybe while in prison - someone will take umbrage to his comments and turn this muslim into a Queen for the Stay!

49 posted on 11/22/2006 5:06:03 PM PST by Dacus943
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To: indylindy

LOL, I've never heard of anyone eating ice cream during a fast!


50 posted on 11/22/2006 5:07:21 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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