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Polygamists Worry Jeffs Case Harms Image
AP ^ | 11/23/06

Posted on 11/24/2006 2:18:58 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

Today: November 24, 2006 at 12:5:13 PST

Polygamists Worry Jeffs Case Harms Image

By JENNIFER DOBNER

ASSOCIATED PRESS

ST. GEORGE, Utah (AP) - A criminal court case here paints a polygamist sect's leader as a controlling abuser who breaks up families and forces girls to marry men sometimes decades older.

But polygamists who aren't associated with Warren Jeffs' group say the case is giving people unfair perceptions of their way of life.

"I think everyone that lives the lifestyle now is guilty by association," said Rachel Young, 45, a polygamist wife and mother of 12, who is a member of the Davis County Cooperative Society, a polygamist group.

Polygamy is illegal under Utah and federal laws. Opponents say the practice is abusive to women and children, who often live in poverty and are unable to leave.

"We believe that they are guilty by association, because they are all essentially doing the same thing," said Vicky Prunty, director of Tapestry Against Polygamy, a group that helps women leaving the practice. "It's a lifestyle with a lack of choices that is hurting people."

Jeffs, 50, leads the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a sect with roots in the teachings of early Mormonism. He is charged with two first-degree felony counts of rape as an accomplice for his role in the arranged marriage of a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin in 2001.

Prosecutors completed their case Tuesday in a hearing to determine if enough evidence exists to send the case to trial. The hearing will resume Dec. 14.

Attorneys for Jeffs said the case is not about rape, but polygamy, and is the continuation of 165 years of religious persecution. Washington County prosecutors maintain polygamy isn't the issue, because the girl's cousin had no other wives.

Polygamists say that detail gets lost in the frenzy of media reports, as do differences among the FLDS and other polygamist groups.

Polygamy came to Utah in the 1800s when members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, known as Mormons, settled the Salt Lake valley. The church abandoned the practice in 1890 as a condition of Utah statehood, although some members refused to accept the change, going underground to continue the practice.

The legacy of that split is an estimated 37,000 self-described "Mormon fundamentalists" who live in Utah and other Western states, according to a survey by Principle Voices, a pro-polygamy advocacy group in Utah. Some are members of organized groups or churches while others remain independent.

Those contacted by The Associated Press say they don't arrange or force marriages, especially for young girls, and don't condone abuse of any kind. And they say women are not prevented from leaving if they choose, nor are children expected to become polygamists as adults.

"But it's hard to tell really what's going on in some of these groups that haven't been targeted. There is so much secrecy," Prunty said, who applauds the case against Jeffs. "I think it's also very easy to look in someone else's backyard and say they are the ones committing the abuse."

Utah isn't the only place where polygamy is being practiced.

Nationwide, a growing number of fundamentalist Christian polygamists claim no early Mormon roots and don't belong to any organized faith, said Mark Henkel of TruthBearer.org, a polygamy rights organization.

Socially, most polygamists try to keep a low-profile in society. Since the Jeffs arrest in August that instinct to keep "our heads lower," has been heightened, Henkel said.

"I have to protect my family more than ever," he said in a telephone interview from Maine.

Like Utah polygamists, Henkel said polygamists without Mormon roots disavow Jeffs and the crimes he's accused of. Henkel is disturbed that the FBI considered Jeffs such a threat that in May they named him to the agency's Ten Most Wanted fugitives list along with such notorious figures as Osama Bin Laden. The designation implies that polygamy is a Top 10-level crime, he said.

"It's outrageous," he said. "If you took out the word polygamy and put any other - homosexual or Jewish - and tied it to this very, very important list, the (groups) would be screaming political hate speech."

Utah polygamists fear the immediate impact of Jeffs' case could set back work they've done to forge a more open relationship with Utah authorities that were designed to root out criminal abuses and help families access state services.

Young is concerned about the effect on her children. In 1953, when Arizona officials raised the FLDS border town of Colorado City, Ariz., dozens of parents were arrested and their children put in state custody.

"For the kids who are old enough to understand, there's a lot of fear," Young said. "They don't want to be taken away."

On some level it's hard for polygamists to know how to react, said Marianne Watson, a historian raised in polygamy.

Some want to more publicly separate themselves from Jeffs by denouncing him, but there is also sympathy for his obedient followers with whom there is a shared belief and often family ties.

Watson said she's angry. She believes Jeffs' four-year rule over his faith is dismantling their culture.

Jeffs is revered as prophet who communicates with God and can strip followers of their eternal salvation. He is known for dismantling families on a whim by kicking out unworthy men and boys and reassigning women and children to new husbands and fathers.

"I have seen him turn a community inside out," Watson said. "To see what he's done is such a crime ... and they can't prosecute him for that."


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1 posted on 11/24/2006 2:18:59 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

They think they had a good image before this?


2 posted on 11/24/2006 2:21:53 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert

No kidding. How low can those approval ratings go?


3 posted on 11/24/2006 2:23:49 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Utah has lots of open space. Maybe we should move all muslims to it.


4 posted on 11/24/2006 2:24:04 PM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

There's a lot of pagan liberals practicing polygamy/polygyny/polyamory these days. I hope the courts will pursue them and not just the Mormons.


5 posted on 11/24/2006 2:24:45 PM PST by PeterFinn (Support the Troops by supporting their mission.)
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To: rocksblues

You want 1.5 billion muslims in Utah?


6 posted on 11/24/2006 2:25:22 PM PST by PeterFinn (Support the Troops by supporting their mission.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
"TruthBearer.org, a polygamy rights organization"

Of course. There just has to be a polygamy rights organization.

7 posted on 11/24/2006 2:26:47 PM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: PeterFinn

No just the one's in the US that think sharia law should be the order of the day.


8 posted on 11/24/2006 2:28:12 PM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Most american men are polygamists of the wost type. They marry them one at a time and then cast them out one at a time.

They still have multiple wives in adulterous relationships.

Funny also how it is legal to live with a dozen women and get them all pregnant, but if you try to make a legal committment to them they will haul you off to jail. LOL.

Such hypocrisy.


9 posted on 11/24/2006 2:29:25 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme...and though it cost all you have, get understanding" -- Proverbs 4)
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To: PeterFinn

Outlaw divorce and then you will stop the vast majority of polygamists (multiple wives, one at a time)


10 posted on 11/24/2006 2:30:33 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme...and though it cost all you have, get understanding" -- Proverbs 4)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Naaahhhh, what would make them think that?
They will never fall below NAMBLA for their pedophilia. It's safe to assume they will remain in similar company regardless of Jeffs.
LOL, damn some peoples stupidity make me laugh.


11 posted on 11/24/2006 2:30:37 PM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: All

*like my bad grammar or typing for instance*
Hah, beat you to it.


12 posted on 11/24/2006 2:31:22 PM PST by JerseyDvl ("If you attack Americans, we'll defend your right to do it."- The Democrat Party)
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To: nuconvert

That's what I thought! There is also the welfare grifting angle to the Jeffs group that has applied to other Polygamists. That won't make them popular either.


13 posted on 11/24/2006 2:33:51 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Mr. Brightside

"Harms Image" Do ya think? They're kidding, right?

To go after another angle in the article, I *do* agree that putting Jeffs on the "Top 10 List" just proves, as if it needed proving, how political the FBI really is.


14 posted on 11/24/2006 2:35:01 PM PST by Felis_irritable
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To: Mr. Brightside
Utah isn't the only place where polygamy is being practiced.

I can assure you that polygamy is prcticed in all 50 states. It is just better kept under covers than in Utah. Their are almost as many polyigamsit in Arizona as in Utah
15 posted on 11/24/2006 2:36:04 PM PST by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: Mr. Brightside


Polygamists should seek treatment for masochistic tendencies.

1 wife is enough to deal with, but 5 wives...

No way.


16 posted on 11/24/2006 2:45:35 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: padre35

Better be glad you were not Solomon. He is said to have had 700 wives and 300 concubines.


17 posted on 11/24/2006 2:49:43 PM PST by gb63
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To: padre35
1 wife is enough to deal with, but 5 wives...
"May you have 5 wives" should become a curse.
18 posted on 11/24/2006 2:50:24 PM PST by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: gb63
He is said to have had 700 wives and 300 concubines.
Of course, he also had the divine right of kings. No nasty divorces, alimony, custody fights etc.
19 posted on 11/24/2006 2:51:21 PM PST by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: Mark Felton

Agreed. Serial polygamy is just fine in Hollywood.


20 posted on 11/24/2006 2:53:57 PM PST by PeterFinn (Support the Troops by supporting their mission.)
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