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To: Accygirl

I hate to re-open what appears to be a dead thread, but your responses have finally provoked me to the point that I am willing to do just that. I currently work with many MBA grads from the schools that you mention, and I can say with impunity that these grads are just about the most ignorant (not stupid) folks that I work with. I am currently employed by a Fortune 5 company that rewards these grads very well.

The problems that they face is that they are so elitist that they think they have no reason to learn the business. They think that their grad degree entitles them to constant promotion, without them having to ever actually learn the business. They are destroying the company that I work for. They are the enemy of success.

Now, I am not stating that you are headed down that path, but your posts sure ring of the same type of elitism. Please consider this as constructive criticism, that is all that I mean by it. My feedback is the same for either the men or women graduates.

In addition, I can tell you that very few of the women that I know from these major programs, with MBA degrees, are happily married. Many of them are miserably single. Yes, they were advanced to high status positions, but they are not truly happy. On the other hand, the men in the same positions are generally happily married and are providing for their spouse. There is a stark difference.


234 posted on 11/27/2006 6:50:04 AM PST by CSM (Americans are getting more and more childish and looking for Big Mommy to take care of them.)
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To: CSM; Accygirl

Let me get this straight --

higher degree = bad
ambitious women with higher degrees = very bad
guys with wives = good.
You work for a failing company.


235 posted on 11/27/2006 6:55:01 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: CSM
"I hate to re-open what appears to be a dead thread, but your responses have finally provoked me to the point that I am willing to do just that. I currently work with many MBA grads from the schools that you mention, and I can say with impunity that these grads are just about the most ignorant (not stupid) folks that I work with. I am currently employed by a Fortune 5 company that rewards these grads very well. "

The MBA gets you a foot in the door; it doesn't get you promoted to the top in five years. MBA grads have to prove their worth like everyone else by meeting their goals and excelling in their job. If your company doesn't feel this way, then it'll be out of business like Enron is soon enough.

"The problems that they face is that they are so elitist that they think they have no reason to learn the business. They think that their grad degree entitles them to constant promotion, without them having to ever actually learn the business. They are destroying the company that I work for. They are the enemy of success. "

Yep, and it'll declare bankruptcy soon enough. I completely understand that an elite MBA is basically $100,000 networking opportunity. However, it's going to introduce me to people that I wouldn't otherwise meet and open doors for me that I wouldn't have otherwise. As I don't plan on spending my life doing entry level drudge work, this sounds like a good deal to me.

A wise MBA student uses the opportunities to their advantage and a bad MBA student runs their company into the ground.

"Now, I am not stating that you are headed down that path, but your posts sure ring of the same type of elitism. Please consider this as constructive criticism, that is all that I mean by it. My feedback is the same for either the men or women graduates."

P.S. Why exactly am I an elitist snob? Because I don't want to date people who work at McDonalds or sweep floors for a living?

"In addition, I can tell you that very few of the women that I know from these major programs, with MBA degrees, are happily married. Many of them are miserably single. Yes, they were advanced to high status positions, but they are not truly happy. On the other hand, the men in the same positions are generally happily married and are providing for their spouse. There is a stark difference."

Well, I know many women who are happily single or happily married career women. I don't see the incompatibility between a professional degree and happiness for women.
330 posted on 11/27/2006 1:19:45 PM PST by Accygirl
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