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HOA bans Christmas wreath
Rocky Mountain News ^ | November 27, 2006 | Robert Weller

Posted on 11/28/2006 2:23:01 AM PST by Mrs Ivan

PAGOSA SPRINGS - In a town in scenic southwestern Colorado homeowners are battling over whether a Christmas wreath that includes a peace sign is an anti-Iraq war protest or even a promotion of Satan. "We have had three or four complaints. Some people have kids in Iraq and they are sensitive," said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Linda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs. He also said some believe it is a symbol of Satan.

Jeff Heitz, of the association board, sent a letter to Lisa Jensen saying: "Loma Linda residents are offended by the peace sign displayed on the front of your house. ... This Board will not allow any signs, flags etc. that can be considered divisive...."

The subdivision's convenants say no signs, billboards or advertising are permitted without the consent of the architectural control committee.

When Kearns ordered the association's architectural control committee to require Jensen to remove the wreath removed, they refused. Jack Lilly, chairman of the group, said it decided it was merely a seasonal symbol that didn't say anything. Lilly also said he had received no complaints from homeowners. Kearns fired all five members of the committee.

"Somebody could put up signs that say drop bombs on Iraq. If you let one go up you have to let them all go up," said Kearns in a telephone interview Sunday. Earlier another homeowner had complied when required to take down a peace sign that was made of a pie plate held up by two skis.

Jensen, a past president of the association in the subdivision of 200 homes 270 miles southwest of Denver, said: "I honestly wasn't thinking of the Iraq war. Peace is way bigger than not being at war. This is a spiritual thing. I am not going to take it down until after Christmas. Now that it has come to this I feel I can't get bullied. What if they don't like my Santa Claus."

Kearns said the association will fine Jensen $25 a day for every day it remains up. She calculates that will cost her about $1,000, although she doubts they will be able to make her pay.

Kearns, meanwhile, also said he was concerned about the pagan symbolism of the peace sign. "It's also an anti-Christ sign. That's how it started," he told the Durango Herald.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: christmas; christmaswreath; colorado; lomalinda; pagosasprings; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2006; wreath
A friend brought this to my attention.
1 posted on 11/28/2006 2:23:02 AM PST by Mrs Ivan
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To: Mrs Ivan

The peace sign is satanic? Who knew.

All of these people need to get a life.


2 posted on 11/28/2006 2:35:10 AM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Hell on earth.
Peace bro.

Kind of funny coming from what are probably ex-hippies, remember when the "man" was bad, now they are the "man".

3 posted on 11/28/2006 2:39:57 AM PST by this_ol_patriot (I'm Back.)
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To: Fzob

Your local HOA: where the battles are big, because the stakes are so small.


4 posted on 11/28/2006 2:42:57 AM PST by angkor
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To: Mrs Ivan

"A friend brought this to my attention."

Your friend may be a lurker at FR.

Colo. Subdivision Bans Wreath Peace Sign
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1744362/posts


5 posted on 11/28/2006 2:43:46 AM PST by PAR35
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To: angkor
Yep. Since the HOA President fired the Architectural Review Committee, maybe there are enough sane people to fire the President. These issues take on a life of their own. If the fine is assessed and the homeowner doesn't pay, then it will be referred to the HOA attorney and additional fees assessed. If there is no resolution then the HOA will place a lien on the residence, and so on and so on.
6 posted on 11/28/2006 2:47:21 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Mrs Ivan
Paging: Bobbie Dooley.

Pick up the Pink Courtesy Phone.
7 posted on 11/28/2006 2:49:01 AM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: Mrs Ivan
I don't think it's a Satanic symbol. But I don't find it coincidental that the "peace sign" looks like a chicken's footprint.

Love, Ivan

8 posted on 11/28/2006 2:53:33 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

If remember correctly its supposed to resemble a dove's foot.

Another one of the "Little Hitlers" who take great joy in running an HOA exactly as they think it should be run.

Impeach or recall his @ss! Better yet it reminds me of the case where an HOA president persecuted one of the homeowners to the where the homeowner broke down and snuffed the HOA preseident. This has been a few years back.

Anyway - never buy where there's an HOA!


9 posted on 11/28/2006 3:13:00 AM PST by .44 Special (Death to Traitors!)
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To: Fzob
The peace sign is satanic? Who knew.

Actually yes. It is an upside down broken cross.

Now, should it be protected speech as a religious symbol?

10 posted on 11/28/2006 3:18:39 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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To: Mrs Ivan
Colorado homeowners are battling over whether a Christmas wreath that includes a peace coward sign

There, that's more accurate.

11 posted on 11/28/2006 3:25:41 AM PST by libertylover (If it's good and decent, you can be sure the Democrat Party leaders are against it.)
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To: .44 Special
Anyway - never buy where there's an HOA!

Also never elect a local official who would force a builder to install a HOA as part of the terms for getting a subdivision plotted / building permits. This is back door government when the government forces the existence of the HOA.

12 posted on 11/28/2006 3:28:51 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Actually yes. It is an upside down broken cross.

It's not clear to me how that qualifies it as a satanic symbol. Is there a protocol for deciding these things? Is the plus sign a satanic symbol as well?

13 posted on 11/28/2006 3:44:59 AM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: Mrs Ivan

The CND symbol is the symbol of what Stalin called "useful idiots" - and therefore it symbolises (to me) appeasement of evil. It has no place on a Christmas wreath.


14 posted on 11/28/2006 3:58:12 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Mrs Ivan
Are they sure it's a peace sign? It could be a Mercedes logo...


15 posted on 11/28/2006 4:02:05 AM PST by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Mrs Ivan
She calculates that will cost her about $1,000, although she doubts they will be able to make her pay

Some HOA's can take over your property if you don't pay.

16 posted on 11/28/2006 4:14:56 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: Mrs Ivan

Last year there was a video posted on FR of a home Christmas display synched to music. It included peace signs, as well as snow men, Santa, snowflakes, and lots of other stuff. Very, very cool, and guaranteed to give any HOA strokes and heart attacks.

Anyone have the link for that?


17 posted on 11/28/2006 4:25:34 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 39-43)
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To: Mrs Ivan

Bob Kearns could use a big dose of 'Peace on Earth and Good Will towards men'.


18 posted on 11/28/2006 4:30:40 AM PST by elli1
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To: Mrs Ivan

I cannot stand HOA's and Condo's...I would not live in an area where some d*uchebag group of home nazi's can tell me where, what, why, and how I can decorate my property....whether I agree with sentiment or not.....

I often ask my Mom as we drive through her condo park....."how the heck can you live in this place Mom?"


19 posted on 11/28/2006 4:31:39 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_symbol

There's a good bit of info on the peace symbol at the url above. It does not at all agree with your assertion.


20 posted on 11/28/2006 5:11:03 AM PST by dmz
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To: dmz

anyone can post on wikipedia so the information is not accurate and has a left-wing slant.


21 posted on 12/31/2013 1:10:36 PM PST by Coleus (Vivat Jesus)
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To: Coleus

Is that true in this case? Please share your documentation.

Or are you simply discounting the info because a lefty might have changed the info?

Your general issue with wikipedia is noted, but do you have anything to suggest that this particular page is in error?


22 posted on 01/01/2014 8:19:54 AM PST by dmz
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