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1 posted on 12/01/2006 1:19:26 PM PST by Risha
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To: Risha

It was dishonest of the author to go on about "Conservative" rabbis, when he knows that "Conservative" Judaism is not conservative or Judaism.


33 posted on 12/01/2006 2:34:43 PM PST by familyop (http://www.noachidechassid.com/news.php)
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Here's a good background paper for the Conservative Rabbis:

(WARNING! Linked article contains verbal descriptions including GRAPHIC
adult content, presented in context)

Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality
by Dennis Prager
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html


34 posted on 12/01/2006 2:36:31 PM PST by VOA
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The devil is alive and well in the world.


36 posted on 12/01/2006 2:55:12 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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But the panelÕs decision will be important for the future of the Conservative movement, which has seen its numbers dwindle in the U.S. in recent decades.

If they become "gay," that will be the end of the Conservative movement. Homosexuality is a dead end (gays are few in number, they don't reproduce and they get sick and die young because of their "lifestyle"). There is no future for an organization that appeals to that demographic. Look at how many liberal churches are dying.

38 posted on 12/01/2006 3:04:53 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Who cares what rabbis and priests have to say about anything? It's time to move on! Time to bring intellect and logic and compassion and experience to bear. And time to put our ancient history to bed.


39 posted on 12/01/2006 3:34:30 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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A panel of 25 Conservative rabbis is meeting next week in New York to discuss whether homosexual sex is permitted under Jewish law.

Leviticus is extremely specific about this crime.

41 posted on 12/01/2006 3:40:05 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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Moderates are just liberals without values. They go along with whatever is trendy and politically correct.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

49 posted on 12/03/2006 2:21:21 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Reform Judaism already ignores the Torah. At least they do not claim it is divine. The Conservatives consider both the Written and Oral Torah have to be updated to keep in touch with modern conditions. But Judaism has never considered idolatry, homosexuality or bestiality to be moral in ANY age. If the Conservatives break with Jewish teaching by endorsing sexual immorality, they will cut themselves off from the Jewish People. That would be a tragedy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

50 posted on 12/03/2006 2:25:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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A panel of 25 Conservative rabbis is meeting next week in New York to discuss whether homosexual sex is permitted under Jewish law.

This cannot be serious. Have these rabbis ever bothered to read the Old Testament?

54 posted on 12/03/2006 2:29:44 PM PST by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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Leviticus 18:22: Do not lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination.

If this commandment is "outdated" what about Leviticus 18:21: Do not make any of your children walk through the fire of Molech [a form of human sacrifice] and do not profance the Name of G-d, I am the Lord.

Or how about Leviticus 18:23: Do not lie with an animal to be contaminated by it; nor shall any woman be mounted by an animal--it is a perversion.

61 posted on 12/03/2006 2:56:55 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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"Advance word is that the panel – the Committee on Jewish Law and Standards – will approve conflicting answers."

That's the Conservative Movement. Neither here nor there on anything. They don't know what the heck they believe on any issue! They assign study groups of the confused to figure out what they believe. If they aren't the funniest and most pitiful "religious" act in town, who is?


69 posted on 12/03/2006 5:30:21 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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The Conservative movement has about 2 million members worldwide, and occupies a position between Orthodox and Reform Judaism.

More like a middle ground between complete non-belief and Orthodoxy - which leaves you with something that really isn't Jewish in the historical or religious sense. It is similar, but significantly different.

Either one accepts that the Torah was given to Moses by G-d at Mt. Sinai, or you don't. If you do, then actions like this are impossible, as G-d Himself has said that lying with another man is an abomination. If, OTOH, you don't accept that G-d gave the Torah to Moses at Mt. Sinai, an interesting question arises: why do ANYTHING required in the Torah, and why refrain from doing ANYTHING prohobited by it? In other words, if it isn't Divine, why pay any attention at all - why not just make things up as you go along? That is, in fact, the view of Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist Jewry. So, if that's the case, why even call yourself Jewish - what's the point?

"The Rabbinical Assembly Committee on Jewish Law and Standards..."

"The Rabbinical Assembly Committee on the Standardless State of Jewish Law as We'd Like it to Be (at This Moment in Time)" is a more accurate description.

"The way it looks, it will be decided on a more liberal understanding of the law," Rabbi Irwin Kula, president of the National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership, told Reuters. "It would be a very big, big surprise if that's not the case." [Note: this is a quote from a different article on the same subject; emphasis added.]

"...a more liberal understanding of the law" is a code phrase for "we'll decide based on any standard that we can come up with, or which one of us is able to shove down the throats of the others, all of which can change at any time" (especially if you only need 6 out of 25 votes).

You know, if someone or some group wants to decide things that way, fine - its their choice. Just don't call the process something that it isn't, and thereby misrepresent who you are and what you're doing. To claim that such a ruling or decision is based on a more liberal interpretation of "The Law" is wholly inaccurate - since "The Law" doesn't leave any kind of discretion like this concerning homosexuality. "The Law" is very clear - it is an abomination. Agree or disagree - but THAT is The Law - and if you disagree that strongly, at least be honest enough to say that you are starting up a new religion.

73 posted on 12/04/2006 9:30:52 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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Insanity. If the Conservatives do this, they might as well join with the (liberal) Reforms and I'll just mosey over to the Orthodox's, where they don't pee on G-d's words.


76 posted on 12/04/2006 9:38:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (That's the spirit.)
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With each other?


78 posted on 12/04/2006 9:45:01 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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A panel of 25 Conservative rabbis is meeting next week in New York to discuss whether homosexual sex is permitted under Jewish law.

Well, why not!! America is going down anyway. We have already pushed God so far out of America that we have lost favor with Him. If anyone doubts that, just look at what's happening in America! We are under Judgment. If you think it's bad now, just wait. Things are going to get much, much worse. When so called "men of God" would even consider this, we are in big trouble. Homosexuality is one of the sins that have brought swift and severe punishment in the Bible. There is NO doubt how God feels about it. He could NOT have been more clear!

79 posted on 12/04/2006 9:46:55 AM PST by NRA2BFree (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't!)
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