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"Report: Electronic voting machines can’t be secured"
The Canton Repository ^ | 2 December 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/02/2006 3:06:34 AM PST by lifelong_republican

"WASHINGTON Paperless electronic voting machines in widespread use across the country may be vulnerable to errors or sabotage and cannot be made secure, a draft report by a federal agency said.

The report by researchers at the influential National Institute of Standards and Technology said the paperless voting machines - essentially notebook computers programmed to display ballot images and record voter choices - "in practical terms cannot be made secure."

"Many people, especially in the computer engineering and security community, assert that the (voting machines) are vulnerable to undetectable errors as well as malicious software attacks," the report said..."

(Excerpt) Read more at cantonrep.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electronicvoting; evoting; representation; vote; voter; voting
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To: L98Fiero; Bob
"OK, let's go over this again. When I voted last, I did so electronically. As I completed the voting process, a receipt printed and REMAINED INSIDE THE MACHINE. I was able to view my selecions, on paper, through a small glass window."

That is different from my understanding of the process, which was that the "receipt" was printed out and left with the voter rather than stored internally. As I recall, NO story I have seen about touch-screen voting has mentioned this rather critical key point.

If that's the way it works, and a paper hard copy is sealed within the machine, then I have no objections.

41 posted on 12/03/2006 7:40:59 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Wonder Warthog
If that's the way it works, and a paper hard copy is sealed within the machine, then I have no objections.

I have no idea if it's done that way everywhere but it does work that way at my polling place.

42 posted on 12/03/2006 7:56:28 AM PST by Bob
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To: lifelong_republican

"Why do you believe that a computer must be on a network to be 'hacked'? "

I don't know. Given 20+ years of IT experience, much of it having to do with programming & security. In addition to the time that could be alotted to individually hacking a machine while people are waiting in line to vote, plus the number of machines that have to be hacked to receive the results the Democrats seem to claim are nationwide.

Aside from that, unless there are massive breakins the level of fraud the Democrats claim would have to occur on a network level.

Then again, the Democrats didn't make any fraud claims this election like they did when they lost the Whitehouse in 2004 and congress in 2002. Which tells me one thing. VOTING FRAUD BY DIEBOLD IS A MYTH!!!!



43 posted on 12/03/2006 8:27:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: Wonder Warthog
You are correct, Sir!
Electronically scanned paper ballots are the best solution.
44 posted on 12/03/2006 12:18:14 PM PST by relee (How ironic that the fatal flaw of communism would turn out to be that there is no money in it - AWB)
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To: Wonder Warthog

EXACTLY!...best post on this thread!


45 posted on 12/03/2006 5:12:11 PM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: Knitebane

This removes the electronic system as the single point of failure.<<<...Bingo!..we have a winner!


46 posted on 12/03/2006 5:14:56 PM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: Dahoser
You said:

"Hack America Vote Act. I love it!

How hard could it be to add a paper printout capability? But that's not the question. What is the question, as you're pointing out, is how best for the RATS to rig elections. Disgusting.

Yes, you're right. The corrupt Democrats of the Rendell mob in Pennsylvania have illegally refused citizen calls for independent evaluations of the systems.

47 posted on 12/04/2006 6:05:48 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Computers can be hacked before they're ever connected to a network. Some of the votefraud systems in use actually have wireless connectivity, too. The belief that this problem would be a myth because someone didn't notice that the problem has been exposed for awhile is a non sequitur.


48 posted on 12/04/2006 6:10:15 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: sten

You are most likely correct. Before this last election there was a guy on Fox in the morning showing how people could touch screen vote and if there was a paper trail the paper would print out something different than they pushed.
Probably why Dems wanted this. I don't think they want a good system like you are speaking of. They prefer cheat machines!


49 posted on 12/04/2006 6:19:28 AM PST by dforest
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To: sidegunner
Built by commies and endorsed by the 'Rats.
And pushed into county elections offices by federal grant money run by a supposed Republican majority (before the last election).
50 posted on 12/04/2006 6:22:41 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: lifelong_republican

No, the problem is a myth because the RATS didn't complain this time around. Remember, weeks before the election, all the articles by computer programmers told of how Diebold is fixing the machines for Republicans.

The next day, all quiet. The RATS were preparing us for a scandal that didn't materialize.

Sorry, it is a myth since all the problems that were exposed were exposed by Democrat operatives.

Now is there potential? That's another question.


51 posted on 12/04/2006 7:05:47 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You are correct in that the potential for undetectable tampering is there with the electronics, which are not limited to Diebold but also include ES&S, Sequoia, and Danaher, among others. They're all vulnerable. They're shoddy cheap boxes being foisted off on the taxpayers for orders of magnitude more money than they're worth.

If "truth in advertising" meant that the poll where you vote had to post a sign advising you of long wait times and possible errors and that 15%+ of all votes could be discarded, and that the fee you have to pay (along with every other person, voter, taxpayer, or otherwise, in your area) would range from $10 and up?

It really doesn't matter who reports a fact, once it's been confirmed independently to be a fact.

It's a fact that the corrupt Democrats of the Rendell mob in Pennsylvania have been defying state law to refuse to let the citizens have the electonics subjected to independent qualified scrutiny.


52 posted on 12/05/2006 4:14:12 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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To: lifelong_republican
Headlines

Chip Implant Not Far Off

53 posted on 12/05/2006 4:21:51 AM PST by bmwcyle (The snake is loose in the garden and Eve just bit the apple.)
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