Posted on 12/02/2006 3:02:03 PM PST by Jacob Kell
Senior Pakistani officials are urging Nato countries to accept the Taliban and work towards a new coalition government in Kabul that might exclude the Afghan president Hamid Karzai.
Pakistan's foreign minister, Khurshid Kasuri, has said in private briefings to foreign ministers of some Nato member states that the Taliban are winning the war in Afghanistan and Nato is bound to fail. He has advised against sending more troops.
Western ministers have been stunned. "Kasuri is basically asking Nato to surrender and to negotiate with the Taliban," said one Western official who met the minister recently.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Pakistan is just showing their true colors.
ummmnnn
I am a stupid kinda man. can anyone explain to me why our "partner in the WOT", Pakistan, is openly promoting the installation of the taliban as government... paarticularrly when the US went ther to kick the talibans ass?
Anyone?
The last time those two countries looked like they were on the brink of war everyone was sweating bullets.Don't forget they both have nuclear weapons.If India could somehow neutralize the Pakistani nukes-then let the party begin.
Anyone who thought their colors were different from the ones they're now showing is naive beyond description.
With the Copperhead Democrats in control of Congress and the liberal news media in control of the minds of the American public, an American defeat can be achieved by any enemy that is capable of inflicting a broken leg upon a single U.S. soldier.
Or us.
And I've been in a few arguments with Freepers who claim Islam is a "religion of peace", the Saudis are our "good friends," and our border defense is effective.
I really hope there aren't too many freepers left who actually believe that.
Shoot the messenger--really, it might not be such a bad idea in the case of Pakistan--but the fact is, NATO is likely to suffer major losses if not defeat in the Spring of '07. Every source I have come to trust in the theater seems to confirm the Paks warning. Poppy dolars are buying 10's if not hundreds of millions of dollars in arms and recruits and they are holding an increasingly large and defensible territory. The recruits are not all members of the old Taliban regime or Pakistani tribesmen, either. They come form Chechnya to China and beyond. The NATO forces are few among the combat capable, with German, French and Italian forces refusing to engage beyond roadbuilding.
I wonder if this moronic jughead has told the Taliban that they are "winning." They'd probably really like to hear this news. I know it was a big surprise for the remnants of the destroyed Viet Cong and the NVA who were hiding out and licking their wounds somewhere in North Vietnam when Uncle Walter Crankcase and SeeBS declared them the "winners" in Vietnam.
Well, according to Dubya all of those things are one hundred percent true, and since there are quite a few bushbot freepers around I think it's safe to say that there are alot of people here who believe that.
"with us or with the terrorists" and all that jazz.
On another note, I'd like to know where our dear president stands on that little policy today. Aw hell, he's ignored it since the day he said it so why should we expect it to change now.
Because Afghanistan is land-locked and we need flyover rights. They are a partner of convenience and are never to be believed or trusted.
Great..BUMP!
Presuming the story is accurately reported, it challenges understanding. In the second half of the article, the subject switches from Khurshid Kasuri to "Lt Gen Ali Mohammed Jan Orakzai, governor of the volatile North West Frontier Province [who] has stated publicly that the US, Britain and Nato have already failed in Afghanistan. . . .
Gen Orakzai insists that the Taliban represent the Pashtun population, Afghanistan's largest and Pakistan's second largest ethnic group, and they now lead a "national resistance" movement to throw out Western occupation forces, just as there is in Iraq.
But his comments have deeply angered many Pakistani and Afghan Pashtuns, who consider the Taliban as pariahs and a negation of Pashtun values. Gen Orakzai is the mastermind of "peace deals" between the army and the heavily Talibanised Pashtun tribes on the Pakistani side of the border, but these agreements have failed because they continue to allow the Taliban to attack Nato forces inside Afghanistan and leave the Taliban in place, free to run a mini-Islamic state.
Are the Pakistanis really pro Taliban or just anti Kurzai?
Meanwhile aides to President Pervez Musharraf say he has virtually "given up" on Mr Karzai and is awaiting a change of face in Kabul before he offers more help.
In that part of the world, nothing is straight-forward. Maybe there's another game being played just out of sight where the object is to make Kurzai a thing of the past. Why?
what is the support of the taliban in Pakistan? How far do they reach into the pakistani government?
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