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I hope they kill each other, if true.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 12/03/2006 1:32:25 AM PST by MadIvan
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2 posted on 12/03/2006 1:32:47 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

They'll kill British and American troops before killing each other though


3 posted on 12/03/2006 2:17:51 AM PST by Biscuit85 (I hate CNN!)
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To: MadIvan
This has been steadily building for a few months. Saudi's king traveled to Turkey to conclude a military cooperation treaty back in September or October.
4 posted on 12/03/2006 2:51:58 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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bump 4 later


6 posted on 12/03/2006 4:04:25 AM PST by prophetic
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To: MadIvan

Really, I was just thinking, hard to choose a side you care to win in this one. Hope it's a tie and they just kill off each other.


9 posted on 12/03/2006 4:16:25 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: MadIvan
Anything they try and do by themselves they will try at arms length with money.

They have always kept their military divided and sectionalized to avoid an coup. While they have a lot of hardware, they don't use it.

10 posted on 12/03/2006 4:24:32 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: MadIvan
OK, it's time for a new Jim Noble victory plan. Scrub the 80 divisions, the sealift, the missionaries.

Simple 3 steps now.

1) Evacuate the Iraq Expeditionary Force
2) Let Iran and Saudi Arabia fight
3) Nuke the winner.

It's a plan!

12 posted on 12/03/2006 4:34:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (To preserve the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity)
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"Saudi Arabia, America's closest ally in the Arab world, is considering backing anti-US insurgents .."


"Ally"?

Nope, just showing their true colors one more time.


19 posted on 12/03/2006 5:45:29 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MadIvan
I could not agree more. I would LOVE to see SA and Iran go at it, as we watch from the sidelines, rubbing our hands in glee. I would sincerely LOVE to see a war between these two muslims countries. We could sell weapons to both sides (limit the spare parts and maintenance manuals), then go in and rebuild the oil infrastructure and refineries.

This is my favorite scenario. The Persian Gulf could then be renamed the RED SEA!
22 posted on 12/03/2006 6:11:17 AM PST by Tahoe3002 (Death to Terrorists!!! Semper Fi! USMC 1970-1981)
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To: MadIvan
It was always my point, let all the morons everywhere have all the fights they want. It is way too expensive to maintain the the "world order" moreover to maintain it alone - the free trade does not provide enough benefits to cover the costs.

And one more thing: US out of UN and UN out of US.

23 posted on 12/03/2006 6:16:55 AM PST by alex
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Military powers, wearing military uniforms? Who knew?

Hiding behind women and children to blow up innocents in the marketplace has been the only "power" I have seen in the ME for over a decade.


29 posted on 12/03/2006 6:38:14 AM PST by roses of sharon
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We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest.

George Bush - Sept 20, 2001

31 posted on 12/03/2006 6:53:04 AM PST by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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This is what the Saudis and Iranians have been bribing US and UK politicians to get.

Why any honest American would support the idea is beyond me. Rather "W" should round up the folks taking the money ~ and he can't say he doesn't know who they are ~

32 posted on 12/03/2006 7:14:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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We should have seized all the ME oil Fields back in 91 when we had the miltary strength to do it

That is what I told my co-workers that needed to be done

The ME is too volatile to alow the oil supply to be in the muslims control

We had to go over there to protect the sea lanes when Iran and Iraq were going at each other

Problem is our military has been gutted and manpower levels for boots on the ground are no where near what we would need

Crapolla hits the fan in the ME watch the oil supply dry up


33 posted on 12/03/2006 7:15:41 AM PST by uncbob
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To: MadIvan

AHEM

OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL

What happens to that when all this killing each other goes on

Remember when Iran and Iraq went at each other

I do believe we had to go over there and insure the sea lanes stayed open so OIL OIL OIL could keep flowing


35 posted on 12/03/2006 7:21:31 AM PST by uncbob
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Probably what will eventually happen is that the Sunni part of Iraq will become part of Syria and the Shiah part will become a satellite state of Iran. So all we have accomplished is to give Iran a big prize. This might cause problems for Iran in the future, however. Even though their client state will be of the same sect, they are Arabs while the Iranians are Persians. They won't get along in the long run.

And the Kurds will want their de-facto state to become official and this might cause conflict with Turkey. If Turkey becomes part of the EU, this might drag the EU into a mid-East war.

36 posted on 12/03/2006 8:13:02 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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"Saudi Arabia, America's closest ally in the Arab world, is considering backing anti-US insurgents because it is so alarmed that Sunnis in Iraq will be left to their fate — military and political — at the hands of the Shia majority."

Anyone want to bet that the US and the Saudis already discussed this as part of the strategy when America puts its troops closer to the Iranian and Syrian border? If it wasn't discussed, then Rummy's "secret" memo would never have surfaced.


37 posted on 12/03/2006 8:42:38 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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The Saudis are understood to be considering providing Sunni military leaders with funding, logistical support and even arms, as Iran already does for Shia militia in Iraq.

Where does alQeada (which now backs the Sunnis in Iraq) fit into this equation since alQaeda's main reason for being is hatred for the Saudi royal family?

39 posted on 12/03/2006 9:39:26 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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We should tell all the civilians to vacate the area, let the Suadies and Iranians go at it- then drop the atomic bomb on any survivors! http://sacredscoop.com


40 posted on 12/03/2006 10:02:12 AM PST by CottShop
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This is a very interesting article. I will leave you both now and allow these passages and possibilities to sink in. This is very interesting indeed.
41 posted on 12/03/2006 10:16:03 AM PST by Chgogal (If not Iraq, why Darfur?)
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