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Big Ice Shelf's Disappearing Act (Ross Ice Shelf)
BBC ^ | 12-4-2006

Posted on 12/04/2006 5:43:54 PM PST by blam

Big ice shelf's disappearing act

By Kim Griggs

The drill rig is near New Zealand and US bases on Ross Island (Image: Cliff Atkins)

Sediments extracted from the Antarctic seafloor show the world's largest ice shelf has disintegrated and reappeared many times in the past.

Fluctuations in the Ross Ice Shelf are revealed by an early look at cores drilled from the seabed underneath the giant ice slab.

The investigation is being carried out by scientists drilling near the US and New Zealand bases on Ross Island.

Tim Naish, Institute of Geological and Nuclear Sciences The long-term aim of the scientists is to find out what the Ross Ice Shelf - a floating slab of ice the size of France - and the West Antarctic Ice Sheet have been doing over the past 10 million years.

The researchers are part of the first team to drill as part of the international Andrill project to investigate the geological history of Antarctica.

"We're seeing numerous cycles of the ice shelf or ice sheet being present at the site and then being absent," said Dr Tim Naish, a palaeoclimatologist at New Zealand's Institute of Geological and Nuclear Sciences and one of the chief scientists for the Antarctica Geological Drilling project (Andrill).

"These are dramatic fluctuations."

"The big question is how stable is this enormous ice shelf, the Ross Ice Shelf, which is being fed by the West Antarctic Ice Sheet," said Dr Naish.

Early signs

Already, just weeks into the project and more than 600m into the seafloor off Antarctica, they've been able to show that this part of the icy continent has at earlier times been open water, and at times, has been covered by an ice sheet.

The team has drilled more than 600m down (Image: Tim Naish)

"When the ice sheet is there, the sediments you get under it are very rubbly. They are the sort of sediments that you would see at the front of [glaciers]," explains Naish.

"When the ice lifts a bit, so water can flow underneath, and it becomes an ice shelf, you still get those rubbly bits but you also get sediments that tell you water was around, that water was flowing back and forth.

"When the ice shelf disappears and you've got completely open water, then you've got a completely different situation where you have high biological productivity and a lot of microfossils preserved."

The scientists also want to determine, by dating the sediments, just when the ice disappeared in order to link that information to what is known about the climate back then.

Warmer world

The aim, said Dr Naish, is provide from this sedimentary snapshot an analogue for what might happen in the warmer climate the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicts.

The IPCC, the body responsible for collating and analysing climate data for the global community, predicts average global temperatures will rise by between 1.4C and 5.8C by 2100.

Tim Naish wants to find out how stable the ice shelf is (Image: Megan Berg)

"If we drill back in time, we can get a record of how [the Ross Ice Shelf] behaved, during times, certainly in the last million years, when we know the temperatures from the ice cores suggest that the planet was two to three degrees warmer," the Andrill project member explained.

Scientists know ice shelves are the most vulnerable part of the Antarctic. On the Antarctic Peninsula, where temperatures have risen 2.5C in the past 50 years, there have been spectacular collapses such as the demise in 2002 of the Larsen B shelf.

The collapse of an ice shelf can lead to further loss of ice from the Antarctic continent itself.

Dr Naish explained: "One of the things we've learnt from the collapse of the ice shelves around the Antarctic Peninsula is that once the ice shelf goes, the glaciers feeding it speed up and you start to lose ice mass off the continent much faster because the ice shelves essentially buttress the glaciers that are feeding them."

Shifting ice

If the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and its northern counterpart on Greenland, were both to melt, sea levels around the world would rise about 10 to 12m. And there is some evidence, says Dr Naish, that the West Antarctic Ice sheet - and not just the Ross Ice Shelf - has also disappeared during warmer periods in the past.

Previous drilling has showed that ice sheets were quite dynamic, collapsing and reforming in line with the Earth's Milankovitch cycles. These are small "wobbles" in the Earth's orbit that are known to happen roughly every 20,000, 40,000 and 100,000 years.

But said Dr Naish, "during all those natural cycles, carbon dioxide never got above 300 parts per million. So in the last 200 years, we've had this geologically unprecedented increase in CO2 - it's 30% higher than it has been over the last several million years and it's occurred at a rate we've never seen geologically."

To understand more, the Andrill team will study exhaustively the core extracted from beneath the Ross Ice Shelf. So far, the team has drilled more than 600m and expects eventually to reach 1200m beneath the seafloor.

But already, the evidence in the sediments of what happened to the Ross Ice Shelf and the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is significant.

Dr Naish muses: "If they collapsed in the past without the present level of CO2 and the Earth was two to three degrees warmer, what's going to happen with the doubling of CO2 and potentially much higher temperatures?"


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; ice; ross; shelf
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1 posted on 12/04/2006 5:43:56 PM PST by blam
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Melt baby melt. Puts my lot right at the shoreline of the Atlantic.

May buy several thousand hectares of land in the Canadian tundra too.

Thank you God, for the big melt and NAFTA, Fur Shur!!!

2 posted on 12/04/2006 5:47:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

3 posted on 12/04/2006 5:49:47 PM PST by Vision ("As a man thinks...so is he." Proverbs 23:7)
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To: blam

I am concerned about "global warming". But I'm not convinced as Al Gore is that this is a coming catastrophe. (sp).,



While flooding of coastal areas is a concern, won't we have a period of many years to evacuate some of these areas, if the worst happens?

Also, couldn't "global warming" have some benefits? For example, the Midwest is a fertile agricultural area, but the growing season is limited because of seasonal change. If that area came to have a longer growing season, wouldn't that be a good thing?


4 posted on 12/04/2006 5:49:48 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: blam
Dam, there goes the Fortress of Solitude, or is that the North Pole?
5 posted on 12/04/2006 5:51:36 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman (One man with courage is a majority.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"...the Midwest is a fertile agricultural area, but the growing season is limited because of seasonal change. If that area came to have a longer growing season, wouldn't that be a good thing? "

It may change in to a 'dust-bowl.'

6 posted on 12/04/2006 5:58:14 PM PST by blam
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To: Dilbert San Diego

No doubt a banana belt running from SC to San Fran would not be all that much of an unmixed blessing.


7 posted on 12/04/2006 6:07:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam
Note the normal pattern inherent in articles of this type:

1. Contents of article largely debunk global warming theories or prove that it's nothing that hasn't happened -- many times -- before.

2. Wrap it up with a concluding paragraph that basically says, "We're all going to die!"

8 posted on 12/04/2006 6:08:30 PM PST by Reverend Bob (That which does not kill us makes us bitter.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

For "coastal flooding" to happen the sea level has to rise. The news media has only one viewpoint on "global warming." Here's a summary of a scientific paper that casts doubt on this whole issue:

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/


9 posted on 12/04/2006 6:09:32 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: blam
Ah.

Either there is more ice in the Antarctic region or there is not. Does it really matter whether the Ross Ice Shelf is smaller (if it is) if there is some new FRozen Ice Shelf somewhere else?

ML/NJ

10 posted on 12/04/2006 6:10:00 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Also, couldn't "global warming" have some benefits? For example, the Midwest is a fertile agricultural area, but the growing season is limited because of seasonal change. If that area came to have a longer growing season, wouldn't that be a good thing?

And just think about how Canada and Russia (both HUGH land masses) would get warmer as well.

11 posted on 12/04/2006 6:10:40 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: blam
Did you ever notice how these hysterical predictions of disaster are always thirty or forty years away? Just long enough to put the last propaganda out of contemporary memory but enough time to enact laws (taxes and regulation to destroy industry). I found out that they were predicting global warming in the forties. They were wrong then; wrong about the global cooling they called for in the seventies. It's about time these grant seekers are asked to reconcile their past errors before being funded to put out more prattle.
12 posted on 12/04/2006 6:15:06 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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It's Bush's fault.


13 posted on 12/04/2006 6:20:20 PM PST by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: blam
Ahhhhhhhhhhh.

We're all DOOMED, I tell ya, DOOMED !

14 posted on 12/04/2006 6:30:32 PM PST by traditional1
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Ozone at the South Pole evidently becomes most depleted when it's coldest. So ice there must be building.

There's more than meets the eye in this "global warming" nonsense.

15 posted on 12/04/2006 7:33:26 PM PST by onedoug
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To: blam
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16 posted on 12/04/2006 7:57:23 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: blam
Everyone knows that there's a routine cycle whereupon the Ross Ice Shelf gets all mushy and self-pitying and whiny about the Rachel Ice Shelf and just starts melting all over the place and disappearing into the scenery.

Folks, we need to be on a break from this kind of thing.

17 posted on 12/04/2006 7:58:40 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Love the baby, though she was funnier with the helmet, yelling "Incoming!"


18 posted on 12/04/2006 7:59:30 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: blam
If the ice shelf is as big as France and 1 km thick it would raise sea level about 8/10 meter, or 32 inches. That's if it falls in; melting ice that's already floating does not raise water levels.

Get back to us if that actually happens.
19 posted on 12/04/2006 8:04:50 PM PST by SmartAZ
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To: blam
The study shows dramatic changes in the past which proves that the dramatic changes we see now are signs of a looming catastrophe.

If the study had shown that there were no dramatic changes in the past, then the dramatic changes we see now would be interpreted as signs of a looming catastrophe.

Is it any wonder that the phrase "climate change" is now preferred over "global warming"?

20 posted on 12/04/2006 8:37:02 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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