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Dick Cheney's Daughter Pregnant
NewsMax ^ | 12/7/06

Posted on 12/06/2006 9:18:37 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: Howlin

Some yes, some no. Since this place has been a "big tent" in the past, it's hard to tell what brand of conservatism will be served up by individual posters day-to-day.


101 posted on 12/06/2006 11:51:46 AM PST by Sam's Army (Merry Sectarian Commercial Event and Happy New Euro-American Calendar Year!)
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To: Howlin
I myself had a father and he was not a good father. He beat my mom and I had to talk him out of shooting her when I was about six or seven. That being said I would have loved to have had a father who would have been more loving and more fatherly. But my dad had his own demons and was an alcoholic and died alone. Just because some men have issues about being fathers does not change the fact Fathers are a big deal. I named my daughter after her father because I hoped they would be close. And yes they have a good relationship. I also have a gay friend who has a child and just last week he asked why his mom dressed like a man. This kid has had more moms then any kid should have to. The world is imperfect as we are but that does not mean we abandon the natural law. Each child needs a mother and a father.The one thing my dad passed on to me was the love and support of the US military. And that little bit he gave me is a big deal.
102 posted on 12/06/2006 12:19:20 PM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: red irish
What a marvelously honest and thoughtful post.
103 posted on 12/06/2006 12:41:45 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: Southerngl

That is after the fact not while both are together and if a woman wants to be impregnated by somebody's elses sperm while married to a man instead of adopting the to me is a completely selfish act


104 posted on 12/06/2006 12:45:23 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Howlin

ooooooh yes you do- and you've got it- nothign you can do and nothign you can say will get me to stop forgiving you- so put that in your pipe and smoke it


105 posted on 12/06/2006 1:00:05 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Bosco

Believe me, I understand and I agree. But there are so many (effectively) parentless children out there, that I would think that 2 mothers are better than the foster care system.


106 posted on 12/06/2006 1:20:47 PM PST by kellynch ("Our only freedom is the freedom to discipline ourselves." -- Bernard Baruch)
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To: Antoninus
All you've got is a string of non sequiturs. Good luck with that.

One man's non sequitur is another man's wisdom.

In your first tirade about the child hopefully changing the "disordered" mother's behavior, I responded about the value of a loving home. To that you responded that it would be better for the child to have a father and mother, which of course was a complete non sequitur. Suggestion: Don't start using them and you needn't worry about others responding similarly.

"Not traditional"? Is that the PC term for disordered/dysfunctional/harmful to the child?

No, it's the PC term for a loving, non traditional family...and hopefully one that does not preach hate.

There's a reason the "traditional" family achieved that status--because it is the absolute BEST model for raising children.

Yes, indeed. I miss Ozzie and Harriet and Father Knows Best. But that was television, and it tended to ignore the millions upon millions of "disordered", single parent families, and the millions of unadopted children who could do a lot worse than a home with Mary Cheney. But for many here, those issues are far less important than the horrible thought of two loving women either adopting, or in this case giving birth to a child. That is the real issue, and it has nothing at all to do with the child, and everything to do with trying to force biblical moral philosophy on everyone else.

A society that discards the "traditional" family for a panoply of non-traditional, feel-good junk is one that's headed for the dung-heap of history.

Got a link to that? Never mind.

107 posted on 12/06/2006 1:50:37 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
No, it's the PC term for a loving, non traditional family...and hopefully one that does not preach hate.

Hey, why not just chant over and over that I'm a bigotted, homophobic, racist, intolerant, sexist, mysoginist. Come on, you know you want to.

Look, I know you think that the sodomite/lesbo lifestyle is the moral equivalent of the traditional two parent family. I consider that opinion to ill-informed, vacuous, and moronic and I intend to say so every time the subject comes up. If that bothers you, too bad. Maybe someday your allies in the government can pass a law that will put "hateful" people like me in jail.
108 posted on 12/06/2006 1:57:49 PM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
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To: MACVSOG68

[got a link to that?]

Yes www. Genesis 19: 1-25 . com


109 posted on 12/06/2006 3:31:39 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Antoninus
Hey, why not just chant over and over that I'm a bigotted, homophobic, racist, intolerant, sexist, mysoginist. Come on, you know you want to.

What I really want to do is to tell you is that you misspelled misogynist, but I can't bring myself to do it. In any case, I'm not at all sure about your racial or gender issues.

Look, I know you think that the sodomite/lesbo lifestyle is the moral equivalent of the traditional two parent family.

Really? I must have missed writing that. But I'm sure you're keeping track. Where did I say that?

I consider that opinion to ill-informed, vacuous, and moronic and I intend to say so every time the subject comes up.

Yes, I know. You've been doing it for a while now. And as I recall, you're not above using lies and misinformation (Parker) to ensure we are all made aware of how important morality is to you.

If that bothers you, too bad. Maybe someday your allies in the government can pass a law that will put "hateful" people like me in jail.

Don't you have that one backwards? Aren't you the one who wants to do the "jailing"?

110 posted on 12/06/2006 3:43:04 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: CottShop
Yes www. Genesis 19: 1-25 . com

Which part of the Bill of Rights is that covered in...outside of your freedom to say it?

111 posted on 12/06/2006 3:49:59 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68

Bill of rights? Lol- take it easy fella- you questioned the other fella for stating that society was going in the dumper because we've abandoned morals and celebraste decadence now- You aksed for a link backing that up- I gave it to you- NOONE is asserting anything on anyone here- Just proving hte point that the other fella had it exactly right- God DOES NOT approve of what we are becomming, and His rights trump our rights & we may just find out one day VERY soon that He will exact judgement- so- celebrate decadence while you can- it will be a short lived 'liberty' for you- http://sacredscoop.com


112 posted on 12/06/2006 3:56:01 PM PST by CottShop
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To: CottShop

I like your attitude.


113 posted on 12/06/2006 3:57:49 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: dfwgator
So who is the father?

I wonder if he will pay child support?

114 posted on 12/06/2006 3:59:33 PM PST by Mark17
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To: areafiftyone

What exactly does the MSM think this story proves?

Yes, a woman can get pregnant without being in a relationship with a man, and without being hetrerosexual.

Yes, females do pair up, get jiggy, and pretend to be married.

All of these are unwise, unnatural, unhealthy, and ungodly.

So what?


115 posted on 12/06/2006 4:01:21 PM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: CottShop
you questioned the other fella for stating that society was going in the dumper because we've abandoned morals and celebraste decadence now-

Actually that's not exactly what he said, but hey, who's counting?

Just proving hte point that the other fella had it exactly right- God DOES NOT approve of what we are becomming, and His rights trump our rights & we may just find out one day VERY soon that He will exact judgement- so- celebrate decadence while you can- it will be a short lived 'liberty' for you- http://sacredscoop.com

Wow. Sounds like you got some inside skinny here for us. I won't ask you where you got it from, cause I'm sure it's pretty secret. We've had enough leaks lately out of the government. We sure don't want any out of FR... Well, at least you and the Ahmadinejad have something in common. You both know God is pretty unhappy with the world. With all due respect however, there are a lot of very good people, Christians as well as others who seem to think that God is a tad more tolerant of differences than many here give Him credit for.

As for the issue of this thread, hope you don't mind, but I'd kinda like to let the Constitution and the laws of the land decide these issues. I hope you can appreciate that?

116 posted on 12/06/2006 4:21:06 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: Silly

Exactly. The MSM is trying to start some trouble as usual.


117 posted on 12/06/2006 5:59:57 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Silly

Exactly. The MSM is trying to start some trouble as usual.


118 posted on 12/06/2006 6:00:10 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: MACVSOG68

Yup you're right- God is tolorant of people, and so aren't Christians- We beleive it is EVERY person's right to sin the sins of their choice, it's their Sin however that will be judged- Where did I get the skinny on this? I listed the link www. Genesis 19: 1-25 .com and before you go on about 'what makes their sin worse than any other sin?" # 1 homosexuality was one of only a VERY few that God called an abomination. Now, spin that however ya like, but it's still an abomination and will be judged as such- BUT this isn't even the point- it's whether or not the person has accepted Christ as Saviour- If they haven't, and generally, people that choose the sin of homosexuality don't choose to accept Christ's sacrifice for their sins, then they'll be judged on it.- nuff said really- We're not against anyone sinning- We CAN however note that indulgences in decadence and ignoring God are what is driving this once great nation into the dumper just as Soddom was.


119 posted on 12/06/2006 6:28:16 PM PST by CottShop
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To: CottShop
homosexuality was one of only a VERY few that God called an abomination. Now, spin that however ya like, but it's still an abomination and will be judged as such-

That may or may not be the case, but since no one I have ever known has actually spoken with the Creator, you can understand the reluctance of some of us to simply accept that from you. Too, many wonder that God would refer to his creations as "abominations". But we all have our beliefs, none of which trump anyone else's. That's the best spin I can put on it.

it's whether or not the person has accepted Christ as Saviour- If they haven't, and generally, people that choose the sin of homosexuality don't choose to accept Christ's sacrifice for their sins, then they'll be judged on it.-

Again, I'm sure you can understand how many of us, knowing that God created this wondrous universe of billion of galaxies, most likely with some type of life throughout them, would "need" such worship from us. What does that do for God? If a human demanded such homage, wouldn't we believe he was feeding his ego through the exercise of power? But I respect your beliefs as well as those of all others who don't attempt to impose them on me.

Take care.

120 posted on 12/06/2006 6:45:52 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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