Posted on 12/06/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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This certainly makes sense. Why should Israel be invited to a conference determining her future.
As Baker sees this, the conference would provide a unique opportunity for the United States to strike a deal without Jewish pressure
Those diabolical Jews. If the quote is true, Baker is to be congratulated for again raising the specter of Republican antisemitism. Evangelicals will have to content themselves to being part of the larger Amen Corner conspiracy, not included here.
At least when Hillary goes to war, she goes to win.
Bush Sr presided over the collapse of the Soviet Union, liberated Kuwait, defeated Sadaam, and unified Germany in NATO, to name just a few. His disaster was political.
Baker represents "republicans" as a whole now? what about the Dems, they support complete surrender against islam and in iraq, yet I don't see you calling them anti-semites?
Warning, Warning, Warning.
Baker is working for the Saudis, on this and everything else.
This conference is a Saudi design from the get go.
The "conference" would be brought togther by the US, as a creation of a US "foreign policy initiative".
As Baker has said, Israel is to be excluded from the "conference".
In spite of US objectives in putting the "conference" together and in spite of an initial agenda based on those objectives - all related to Iraq mostly, the US will:
1. Be unable to control the agenda,
2. Unable to control the "conclusions and recommendations" of the "invited participants"
3. Unable to prevent the Saudis and the Iranians from subverting the entire affair into one in which the sponsor of the "conference", the U.S., is asked to sign on to the "results" of the agenda, which will be:
"Dismantle Israel and we will stop the terrorists"
It is set up and Baker knows it.
Txsleuth: This stinks out loud.Williams: This thing really is an outrage.
If the Jews are part of a worldwide conspiracy and if Israel is an illegitimate state, it makes perfect sense.
Jimmy Carter wouldn't be bold enough to make a proposal like this, Buchanan or Duke would, but he'd be on board.
A shame it comes from the lips of a prominent Republican.
It's an article proposing things that are not consistent policy that is completely based on supposed leaks by unnamed officials "familiar" which what is going on.
When you have a report based on unnamed sources that appears a bit outrageous, it almost always is.
The closest they get to substantiating anything in the article is a couple quotes by Gates that could easily be taken out of context.
The article amounts to gossip at best.
If they're on board do we indict Condoleezza Rice, Nicholas Burns and John Negroponte too.
The Dems are going to LOVE this circus.
I think I am just about tired of traitors and backstabbers.
When the next terrorist strike hits us, I believe the US will become an all out civil war zone.
Just before the United States entered WWI on the side of the Allies it was given a copy of the Zimmerman Note or Telegraph. This note proposed:
"Zimmermann's message included proposals for German support of a Mexican offensive on the southwestern United States in the event the United States attacked Germany. The telegram made it clear Germany did not want the United States involved in the war, stating the belief that Britain would be forced to surrender soon. The Japanese government would also join this new alliance in a possible conflict in the Americas. Germany, for its part, would provide financial assistance and the restoration of the former Mexican provinces of Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado- all American States."
It caused an uproar in the US and coupled with the loss of US citizens at sea due to Imperial German submarine attacks on Allied shipping, lead to US entry in 1917. (BTW, Wilson who ran on the slogan, "He kept us out of war," lied and people died), argued that it was a causus belli before his address to Congress seeking a declaration of war.
Fast forward to present day. The Baker-Hamilton Commission offers the following advice to the President of the United States:
In order to get Syria to cease allowing the flow of men and arms into Iraq (a concession BTW that they are directly involved in current attempts to destabilize the situation there) the administration is to make a:
"... renewed and sustained commitment by the United States to a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace on all fronts: Lebanon, Syria, and President Bush's June 2002 commitment to a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. This commitment must include direct talks with, by, and between Israel, Lebanon, Palestinians (those who accept Israel's right to exist), and Syria."
What this means it that an attempt will be made to bribe Syria to stop the flow of men and money into Iraq by giving it Lebanon and the Golan Heights. If the US adopts such a position are we no better than Imperial Germany was at the onset of WWI in offering Mexico (Syria) concessions in the US (Israel) to gain an advantage.
It is stipulated that Israel has atomic weaponry. If we go along with this madness they may end up using them against us.
Believe me, it ain't just you!
It's riduclous, and a sell-out. We are shafting our friends and allies to appease our enemies. If any of this is acted upon, the lesson the world will learn is that it's more dangerous to be a friend of the United States than it is to be an enemy.
You know what makes me angry? Here at UT they're building the James Baker Center for Public Policy. Tore up valuable parking space to do it, too. It makes me want to spit every time I walk by the place.
This is pure nuts. Surely this "plan" is a misunderstanding? What do they think they will get from all the Arab and Persian countries if they discuss Israeli territory? I hope this article turns out to be bogus. If not, then we are well and truly sold down the river by our gub'mint. And I include "conservatives", liberals, R's, D's and botched jokes.
The Baker Doctrine: F*** your friends to please your enemies.
Give this two weeks and we may hear this ... I dearly hope.
I am just speechless.
What is it about the State Department that turns its appointees and staff into fools, cowards, and traitors?
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