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Baker wants Israel excluded from regional conference
Insight Magazine ^ | December 5, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: Victoria Delsoul

That fabulous Baker boy ping!


61 posted on 12/06/2006 1:17:02 PM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: Little Ray
What is it about the State Department that turns its appointees and
staff into fools, cowards, and traitors?


My inexpert guess is that they become "citizens of the world".

There's a story (perhaps apocryphal) that when George Schultz was
Sec. State, he'd have an interview with State Dept. employees before
they departed for their distant postings.
There was a big globe in Schultz's office; he'd spin it and ask
the interviewee to "point out your country".

Most times, after the fellow would point it out, Schultz
would calmly, but forcefully say "NO...point out YOUR country".

Meaning, usually they initially pointed out the country they'd
be posted to.
And Schultz just wanted to remind them that they were being sent
abroad to represent the interests of the USA.
Not the country they were headed for.
62 posted on 12/06/2006 1:17:16 PM PST by VOA
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To: West Coast Conservative

Paging Bibi, please pick up the white courtesy phone...now.


63 posted on 12/06/2006 1:18:18 PM PST by alarm rider (Not a democrat, not a republican, not a "libertarian".. A CONSERVATIVE.)
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To: Sender
The guy thinks we can just talk Islamic countries into "flipping" in favor of the US with some carrot. He doesn't get it.

He gets it, he's looking for a deal that will put Syrian and Iranian aggression off till we've withdrawn, and hopefully till a new administration is in office. As to trusting them, unlikely. We can bribe them though, give Iran free reign in Iraq, allow them to go nuke and agree to prevent an Israeli strike. For Syria, we can offer influence in Iraq, and more importantly Lebanon. The Syrians likely realize they can't dominate Iraq. For the Kurds, the Kurds, who are they. And for the Saudis, we'll harm Israel a bit.

64 posted on 12/06/2006 1:19:23 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's 1938 all over again! Israel's future should be decided at a conference to which Israel is not invited. Baker should be excoriated for suggesting this! Who dragged this lawyer for the Saudis into the discussion? Bush 41? Bush 43 is twice the man Bush 41 was.


65 posted on 12/06/2006 1:19:24 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Constantine XIII

in Arlington? or Austin?


66 posted on 12/06/2006 1:19:51 PM PST by rahbert
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To: West Coast Conservative

Good grief. A new evil emerges on every page. Is this what American Jews wanted to vote for when they helped put the Dems in power?


67 posted on 12/06/2006 1:19:53 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Not that I think Baker and his damfool circus knows or can find their heads from a hole in the ground, but this article cites more unnamed "officials" than flies on manure.


68 posted on 12/06/2006 1:20:13 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Unapologetically Celebrating the Birth of Christ!!)
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To: stockstrader

the administration didn't "float" this - this is what Baker and the committee came up with, its not an administration proposal.


69 posted on 12/06/2006 1:21:12 PM PST by oceanview
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To: West Coast Conservative

Not surprising for a dyed-in-the-wool Israel hating traitorous globalist.


70 posted on 12/06/2006 1:21:15 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Lurker

"Baker should be indicted for this travesty."

He's nothing but a K Street suckup for the Saudis. What a collection of whores in Washington!


71 posted on 12/06/2006 1:21:56 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: VOA
Sounds like we need a serious purge at State and more Secretaries of State like Schultz.
72 posted on 12/06/2006 1:22:01 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: NurdlyPeon

You may very well be right.. The capitulation and sellout continues.. Israel is the sacrificial offering..


73 posted on 12/06/2006 1:22:08 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: SeaBiscuit

Israel needs Bibi more than ever, now.


74 posted on 12/06/2006 1:22:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Howlin

It is an open secret that Baker had sold his soul to the Saudis.


75 posted on 12/06/2006 1:22:51 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Baker=Backstabber.

The US cannot be a part to selling out Israel with a stab inb the back like this and Baker should be run out of the country for suggesting it.


76 posted on 12/06/2006 1:23:08 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Cicero

The plain said truth is that many American liberal Jews are very much anti-Israel.


77 posted on 12/06/2006 1:23:39 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Unapologetically Celebrating the Birth of Christ!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is totally depressing. Time to bombard the WH with emails and phone calls.


78 posted on 12/06/2006 1:23:48 PM PST by SMM48
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To: Slings and Arrows
The Baker Doctrine: F*** your friends to please your enemies

The sound bite they are playing on radio news is Baker saying" We have to talk to our enemies."

In Hell, Hitler and Tojo must be beside themselves wishing Baker had been around then while they were on a rampage for world domination.

Yes the Iraq study group released their report. The analysis can be summed up in one word.

SURRENDER.

79 posted on 12/06/2006 1:25:23 PM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: oceanview
I haven't read the details in the report - was this "no israel at the conference" plank something the entire group agreed to, or is this just Baker talking off the cuff on his own?

I haven't seen details either, just summaries of the executive summary, but I think it's Baker's idea, not part of the formal report. I've seen the following quote in a couple articles.

“there must be a renewed and sustained commitment by the United States to a comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace on all fronts: Lebanon, Syria and President Bush’s June 2002 commitment to a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine.

This commitment must include direct talks with, by, and between Israel, Lebanon, Palestinians (those who accept Israel’s right to exist), and Syria.”

which would imply Baker is acting on his own.

I'm curious about the source of the Jewish influence quote as well, sounds like Baker but hard to imagine he's that stupid.

Excerpts at

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=7e9e2dec-3b53-4fb5-92c5-a9341c36c910

http://jta.org/page_view_breaking_story.asp?intid=5914

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N06429635.htm

80 posted on 12/06/2006 1:25:44 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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