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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
But Roman Catholic teaching about her being snatched up as was Enoch are mere fancy - and end up disrespecting the Lord with all the spurious none sense that captivate to many.

Why is it mere fancy? If Enoch was loved and revered enough by God that he was allowed to be taken up, uncorrupted, then why not the woman who was created to be the mother of His own Son?

Mary was "The Woman of the Promise" prophesied in the Old Testament. Catholics believe she was conceived without sin, precisely because she was created to be the vessel for the Incarnation of God's Love. In fact, tomorrow is the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, honoring Mary. If God loved and revered Mary enough to allow her to bring His Son into the world, why is it such a leap to believe that He might raise her to heaven with Him and Jesus, uncorrupted? And I don't see how honoring Mary is considered disrespectful to Jesus. After all, He honored her as well.

73 posted on 12/06/2006 7:16:34 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Oxford dictionary defines reverence as

“the deep respect and veneration for some thing, place, or person regarded as having a sacred or exalted character.”

You say, "If God loved and revered Mary enough to allow her to bring His Son into the world"

Surely Catholics would not actually say God REVERED (venerated) Mary?

96 posted on 12/06/2006 7:57:20 PM PST by what's up
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To: SuziQ
Was John the Baptist assumed into Heaven? If not, why not? Jesus said in Luke 7:28

I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there is none greater than John:.

Jesus said that John The Baptist was greater than Mary (well at least until some one claims that Mary was born by an alien or a man).

And I don't see how honoring Mary is considered disrespectful to Jesus.

When Mary is 'honored' to the point where it makes Jesus to be a LIAR, that is disrespectful indeed.

158 posted on 12/07/2006 2:52:30 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: SuziQ

That which mankind attributes God outside what He disclosed to us in the Bible (which has never included the Apocrypha) is the fancy of men.

Those ideas of mankind which elevate him (or her) above what God has declared about us in the Bible are mere fancy of men.

Mary was sinful as testified by the Scripture that all are sinners, none do good, all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

There is NOTHING in Scripture that tells us Mary was born without sin. That's the fancy of men. As you say, "Catholics believe" it. That's mere fancy. Some in your church have taken Mary worship to cultic extremes, as evidenced by all the talk about her being the co-redemdtrix (sic?) with Christ. That's beyond fancy and is clear-cut heresy.

Religion of man - false traditions of men. Do not hold dearly to these as they will lead you away from the Lord Jesus.


176 posted on 12/07/2006 5:40:45 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: SuziQ

I think a big problem starts from the premise of asking, "Well, Why not??", as if we were really see things with thru his eyes.

Family to Jesus is revealed in his rejection of his own immediate family in "...they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother."(Mark 3:31-35, Matthew 12:46-50, and Luke 8:19- 21).

Why would he just change his mind?


177 posted on 12/07/2006 5:41:05 AM PST by Paulus
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