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Should the U.S. increase its H-1B visa program? Wages belie claims of a labor shortage
SF Chornicle ^ | 12/7/2006 | Norman Matloff

Posted on 12/7/2006, 7:20:11 PM by Old_Mil

Once again, the tech industry is putting heavy pressure on Congress to expand the H-1B visa program...

...The industry claims that it needs to import workers to remedy a severe labor shortage. Yet this flies in the face of the economic data...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aliens; h1b; immigrantlist; immigration; trade; wages
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In the 80s, the American worker was told to educate themselves so that they could find employment in a competitive world.

The unfortunate reality is that no American professional can compete his third world counterpart while maintaining a first world standard of living.

1 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:20:16 PM by Old_Mil
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To: Old_Mil

No we should increase our B1-H program........


2 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:21:40 PM by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Old_Mil
Short answer: HELL NO
3 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:22:24 PM by geo40xyz (Born a democRAT, dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing DemocRAT)
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To: Old_Mil

As one who has worked in the industry I agree.
No more H1bs.
While they are at it lets stop the deluge of Hi-tech jobs being moved overseas.
I lost my last two jobs to China ands India


4 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:26:18 PM by b fair
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To: geo40xyz

I agree, Congress should NOT increase it.


5 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:29:45 PM by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: Old_Mil
From NUMBERS.USA

Americans had been assured that the clock had already run out on this kind of sneak-pass play. Congress was supposed to be in town this week just to pass a Continuing Resolution to keep the federal government funded.

But tech industry lobbyists -- desperate to continue to hold down wages with foreign labor -- have stopped the legislative clock.

A near-football team of Microsoft blockers, tackles and fleet-footed lobbyists (10 of them!) roamed the Senate hallways Wednesday looking for a way score on their usual last-minute, rule-breaking, end-of-Congress style.

Many times in recent years, Microsoft and other tech lobbyists have sneaked through major increases in H-1B visas just as Con gress was leaving town.

Since being publicly embarrassed in the late 1990s by debating the merits of this kind of legislation publicly, Congress has declined to pass these H-1B visa increases in the true light of day, with standard debate and using normal procedures.

But nearly all inside staffers told us they had received assurances from congressional leaders that no sneak play would be allowed this year.

On Tuesday, Senate staffers were stunned to see Sen. Cornyn suddenly emerge as the person willing to bring shame on himself by carrying the Robber Barons' water and force his pet project ahead of all others.

We sent an email to all our members last Friday, asking for steady pressure on Senators to make sure they knew public sentiment in case something like this happened.

Then Tuesday afternoon, we got word that Cornyn was trying to ram his bill onto the Senate floor. We went to all of our members in about a dozen states with Senators who often fight for American workers against foreign labor importation. We stirred up a flurry of phone calls.

We were pleased that by late Tuesday, many of those Senators had placed "holds" on Cornyn's bill. But those holds tend to have power to only slow the process down for awhile and can be overcome if Senate leadership decides to do so. The word we had late Wednesday was that the "holds" were breaking as Microsoft's lobbyists gathered more support.

6 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:31:30 PM by radar101 (LIBERALS = Hypocrisy and Fantasy)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


7 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:32:39 PM by kalee (No burka for me EVER!)
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To: radar101

Senator Cornyn has some 'splainin' to do.


8 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:35:09 PM by dfwgator
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To: Old_Mil

...The industry claims that it needs to import workers to remedy a severe labor shortage.
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Total BS -- it is about hiring CHEAPER labor. That is ALL that it is about. And the last thing the USA needs to do is allow more immigration....a totally unmanaged and criminal activity in this country.


9 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:53:33 PM by EagleUSA
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The quota on the H1B rose to 195,000 during the boom and fell to 50,000 during the recession.

The Senate tried to raise it to 110,000 in 2005 but were blocked by the House. The quota increase was rolled into the Senate Immigration Reform bill in May 06, where it still sets.

If a stand alone attempt is now being made to raise the quota, that would be clue that the Senate Reform bill of 06 will be replaced with a new/different bill.

10 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:54:27 PM by Ben Ficklin
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This is how it works:

(1) A U.S. company advertises in bold letters in the local newspaper how much they are in need of technical personnel. Please come and interview with us!

(2) Applicant appears for the interview during which he will have to fill out application forms which include name, social security number and other required info.

(3) Applicant receives a form letter thanking him for his time with an apology stating that his qualifications are not what the company is looking for. (It is known that applicants have received the form letter even before going to the interview. Oops, H.R. department screwed up.)

(4) List of applicants is sent to a congressman stating that the company has gone through "great pains" in finding the qualified person to fill the position but was not successful in doing so. Please give us the necessary H-1B visas. (Here is a check to be used at your next election.)
Sincerely, blah, blah, blah


11 posted on 12/7/2006, 7:56:54 PM by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: 353FMG
They also use this trick to impress stockholders with the 'growth potential' of the company.


(1) A U.S. company advertises in bold letters in the local newspaper how much they are in need of technical personnel. Please come and interview with us!

(2) Applicant appears for the interview during which he will have to fill out application forms which include name, social security number and other required info.

(3) Applicant receives a form letter thanking him for his time with an apology stating that his qualifications are not what the company is looking for. (It is known that applicants have received the form letter even before going to the interview. Oops, H.R. department screwed up.)

(4) List of applicants is sent to a congressman stating that the company has gone through "great pains" in finding the qualified person to fill the position but was not successful in doing so. Please give us the necessary H-1B visas. (Here is a check to be used at your next election.)

12 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:03:47 PM by Scourge of God (Remember, liberals, 'baaa' means NO!)
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To: Red Badger

I agree with you. Too many of these people here already. How about educating Americans and paying them what they are worth..


13 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:05:11 PM by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: b fair

I lost my last Tech Writing job to a barely literate Indian. He worked for 1/3 of my salary. He just couldn't write!


14 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:05:21 PM by Scourge of God (Remember, liberals, 'baaa' means NO!)
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To: Old_Mil

There are many brilliant people here on FreeRepublic. Why none of them ever bother posting replies on immigration threads, I'll don't know.....


15 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:08:33 PM by Onelifetogive (I don't have to show you no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: Onelifetogive

Lots of people are not directly affected by H1-B visas. Those of us in the industry know what is going on, and are very concerned.


16 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:10:23 PM by luckystarmom
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To: Old_Mil

Look at it this way. If more H1B's aren't brought in to work here, then projects here will get cancelled and outsourcing will accelerate. Also, if there really aren't enough people to do the work, then those Americans doing the work here are threatened because a company may not be able to construct a sufficient team to to the projects on this side of the Pacific.

It's not much different from unions squeezing employers, then the employers shipping the work somewhere else.


17 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:47:43 PM by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

Your arguments are persuasive. Falling wages are persuasive the other way.


18 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:54:35 PM by DManA
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To: Old_Mil
The industry claims that it needs to port workers to remedy a severe labor shortage.

Translation: They're lobbying for more indentured servants.

19 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:55:25 PM by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: doc30

Let me amend what is said to say you make a good argument but that is not the argunment industry is making - their shortage argument is bogus.


20 posted on 12/7/2006, 8:58:46 PM by DManA
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