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My Own Iraq Study Group
ChronWatch ^ | 7 DEC 2006 | Don Bendell

Posted on 12/07/2006 2:04:48 PM PST by radar101

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1 posted on 12/07/2006 2:04:51 PM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

WOW! Gets ya thinkin..............


2 posted on 12/07/2006 2:09:10 PM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: radar101

sounds good...so I why is it not done?


3 posted on 12/07/2006 2:14:20 PM PST by woofie (This area deemed a failure, Something new and witty will no doubt emerge)
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To: radar101

Bumping for review


4 posted on 12/07/2006 2:16:38 PM PST by Samwise (The root word in "environmentalist" is "mental.")
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To: woofie
sounds good...so I why is it not done?

Because the press would seek to expose the atrocities being committed by Bush's "secret police". Pulitzer prises all around.

5 posted on 12/07/2006 2:17:54 PM PST by rhombus
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To: rhombus
bump. I hope some generals get this and take it to heart.
6 posted on 12/07/2006 2:22:19 PM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong pre-emptive strike.)
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To: radar101

It's always hard to know which armchair quarterback to listen to, but I like this. It makes sense as you read it. He seems to have the background to make his opinion worthwhile.


7 posted on 12/07/2006 2:22:56 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Coffee_drinker

The overall message is de-centralized control. Such approaches always encourage creativity.


8 posted on 12/07/2006 2:32:21 PM PST by rhombus
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To: radar101
Awesome !!!!!! I think I will forward this to a Lt. Col. I know....
9 posted on 12/07/2006 2:35:05 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: radar101

My Iraq study recomendations for Baker and Co. have 97 steps. All of them require Mr. Baker to grab his ankles!


10 posted on 12/07/2006 2:40:17 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: radar101
[ This morning, my wife started crying when we listened to the long-awaited findings of the Iraq Study Group. She said, “Just great! We have two sons in harm’s way, ]

The malfeance is great.. and portends much more crying before a democrat lead Congress is over..

11 posted on 12/07/2006 2:42:41 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: Coffee_drinker

The conventional army generals didn't get it in "Nam and still don't get it. Special Ops is the way to win an insurgency like we now have in Iraq and Afghanistan. The big army is trained to fight a big opposing force and can't see beyond that mission. With the surrender monkeys (press and Democrats) now in charge, both missions are down the tube. Special Ops and the Marines will be withdrawn first and wither away under the post 2006 downsized military budgets. Most Americans won't notice in a few years when our national flag is replaced by the UN flag.


12 posted on 12/07/2006 2:46:26 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: Allegra

Have you read this yet?


13 posted on 12/07/2006 2:56:53 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: radar101

Hooah!


14 posted on 12/07/2006 3:09:30 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: radar101

Bump for later reading


15 posted on 12/07/2006 3:13:32 PM PST by Christian4Bush (Don't blame me - I didn't vote for these DEM b**tards. (redacted to satiate religioncop TXBlair))
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To: radar101; Nancee

Thank you for Your Excellent Article! This is a must read!!


16 posted on 12/07/2006 3:15:15 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: radar101

Marking. Based on just starting it, thanks so much for the post...


17 posted on 12/07/2006 3:43:03 PM PST by eureka! (May the voters see the light next time.....)
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To: RicocheT

Stormin' Norman would not even allow snake eaters in his AO.

Talk to a SOF operator and they will tell you they can do it all.

Talk to a conventiion force type (or a Marine) and you will get a range of opinion from OK to terrible.

You will have to draw your own lines-
as for me, if really hits the fan, I'll take the Marines over SOF - just me - YMMV


18 posted on 12/07/2006 3:51:55 PM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: woofie
sounds good...so I why is it not done?

Because conventional minded officers have infiltrated and staff Special Forces.  Their tactics and fidelity to the conventional side of the Army is causing more problems than their rank is worth.  I hear these same things from the troops coming back from the "box" and it's not getting any better.  Best to pull out everyone but one Brigade of "firefighters" and keep nothing else but Special Forces and support for them in country. 

A big problem is no one has learned counterinsurgency like SF has.  Conventional minded officers think a tank and bombs will win all.  Just isn't so.

"Special Operations" Marines and conventional units that are going to be used to "train" Iraqi forces are not going to get the job done.  They don't have the native experience and and are too conventional for they type of warfare.

Other than that...the only option is to "kill 'em all and let God sort them out." 

19 posted on 12/07/2006 3:52:09 PM PST by Shamrock-DW
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To: radar101
Best plan I have heard yet, if we are planning on winning this war. So much better Than the one we have heard about the last couple of days.
20 posted on 12/07/2006 4:03:02 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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