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Why did a promising heart drug fail?
news@nature.com ^ | 6 December 2006 | Helen Pearson

Posted on 12/07/2006 7:01:34 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 12/07/2006 7:01:38 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

what spiraling heart disease? it is way down since the 60's


2 posted on 12/07/2006 7:04:50 PM PST by spanalot
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To: neverdem

At least they are heeding the trial's failures and ending it (torcetrapib).


3 posted on 12/07/2006 7:04:53 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: StarCMC

No kidding they should be stopping this! We just found out that the study Gramps was in....involved this very drug.

He has an appointment next week to find out if he has any health problems due to this.

Rains. Pours.


4 posted on 12/07/2006 7:07:03 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Best wishes concerning his appointment.


5 posted on 12/07/2006 7:11:50 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: neverdem
One approved drug, called niacin, is known to both raise HDL and reduce cardiovascular risk but also causes an unpleasant sensation of heat and tingling. Researchers are exploring whether they can bypass this side effect and whether niacin can lower disease risk more than statins alone.

I thought Niacin was a vitamin, not a drug.

6 posted on 12/07/2006 7:13:05 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: kinoxi

Thanks....we're sorta kinda hoping and praying he was on the placebo ourselves...


7 posted on 12/07/2006 7:15:29 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I've heard sporadic references to companies trying to (and succeeding) patent DNA, so why not vitamins?


8 posted on 12/07/2006 7:20:04 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: operation clinton cleanup

http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2006/12/why_did_a_promising_heart_drug.html


All you ever needed to know about niacin and then some.

Maybe. :)

It's a link off of the above link provided by the poster of this thread.


9 posted on 12/07/2006 7:20:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Best wishes.

By the way, you're a Gramma and your Gramps is still kicking? Wow! Are you Filipino? (I've known a Filipino of 36 who was a gramma and her own gramma was still around (she told me: "Eh, no big deal!")

10 posted on 12/07/2006 7:22:29 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
[ I thought Niacin was a vitamin, not a drug. ]

Shuuush.. Don't make "them" mad or they will make food a drug and we will need a script to get any..

11 posted on 12/07/2006 7:24:49 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: Revolting cat!

Me=Grammie.
Husband=Gramps.

Silly goose.

HOWEVER! My father, who is 85...one of HIS AUNTS is still alive and well, thank you very much! ;)


12 posted on 12/07/2006 7:26:40 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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How did they rope him in to that?

Didn't they tell him that ANY drug trial, by it's very nature is outside the normal parameters?


13 posted on 12/07/2006 7:31:32 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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I honestly can't answer that because I don't know...


14 posted on 12/07/2006 7:33:30 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Thanks! I think I will stock up on Vitamin B-3 (Niacin) before it is declared a drug.
15 posted on 12/07/2006 7:34:45 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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I thought Niacin was a vitamin, not a drug.

When it's used in physiologic doses, it's a vitamin. But when you use it in pharmacologic doses, it's working as a drug.

16 posted on 12/07/2006 7:34:54 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Could you either type that in English or very slowly for the mentally challenged?

:)

WHAT did you just say??????


17 posted on 12/07/2006 7:36:56 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: Brad's Gramma
If this is really the problem:

One hint lies in evidence from earlier trials that it slightly raises blood pressure in some patients. It was thought that this mild problem would be offset by the heart benefits of the drug. But it is possible that it actually proved fatal in some patients who already suffered high blood pressure.

...then hopefully the effects would go away pretty soon after getting off the drug.

18 posted on 12/07/2006 7:38:51 PM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: spanalot

I always wondered why they didn't do this earlier. I have an unusual situation where my cholesteral is REALLY high...like 240. But my good cholesterol is SO HIGH that it negates the bad cholesterol. Doctors are always surprised by how high the good is...it's hereditary. My Mom had it too. One of the few good health things I got from my Mom!


19 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:26 PM PST by Hildy ("Death plucks my ear and says - LIVE - I am coming.....")
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I always wondered why they didn't do this earlier. I have an unusual situation where my cholesteral is REALLY high...like 240. But my good cholesterol is SO HIGH that it negates the bad cholesterol. Doctors are always surprised by how high the good is...it's hereditary. My Mom had it too. One of the few good health things I got from my Mom!


20 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:29 PM PST by Hildy ("Death plucks my ear and says - LIVE - I am coming.....")
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