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Poll: Election Troubles for Hillary, Giuliani
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Posted on 12/07/2006 9:05:42 PM PST by Nascardude

Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is popular within her party but could have trouble winning the presidency, according to a poll that also identified potential hurdles within the GOP for former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The former first lady held a double-digit lead over possible rivals in the survey released Thursday by Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion. Clinton, who has taken steps suggesting a 2008 bid, had the support of 33 percent of Democrats to 14 percent for former Sen. John Edwards.

Former Vice President Al Gore was at 13 percent and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama 12 percent. Other Democrats were in single digits.

Still, Clinton remains a polarizing figure, Forty-seven percent of registered voters said they would definitely not consider voting for the New York senator. Twenty-five percent said they definitely would consider voting for her while 28 percent said they would possibly consider it.

Giuliani and Sen. John McCain of Arizona led the GOP field, with 24 percent favoring Giuliani and 23 percent backing McCain. Giuliani and McCain each led Clinton, 49 percent to 43 percent.

But when Republicans were informed that Giuliani is "a pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay rights Republican," 47 percent said those traditionally liberal positions would be a major factor in determining how they voted while just 22 percent said they would not be a factor.

Conservative voters hold considerable sway in the Republican presidential primaries.

"For Hillary, it is: She is acceptable to Democrats, but is she electable?" said Marist's Lee Miringoff. "For Rudy, he's electable; but is he acceptable" to Republicans deciding the nomination?"

The poll of 967 registered voters was conducted Nov. 27-Dec. 3 and has a sampling error margin of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.


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1 posted on 12/07/2006 9:05:44 PM PST by Nascardude
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To: Sabramerican

I guess it is hopeless. Might as well pack it in. The poll has spoken.


2 posted on 12/07/2006 9:07:08 PM PST by Torie
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To: Nascardude
"For Rudy, he's electable; but is he acceptable" to Republicans deciding the nomination?"

If he's the nominee, the media will make sure he's not electable either. This is all a set up. See tagline.
3 posted on 12/07/2006 9:08:09 PM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
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To: Antoninus

Same goes for John McCain.


4 posted on 12/07/2006 9:13:07 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: oyez
Same goes for John McCain.

True dat.
5 posted on 12/07/2006 9:16:08 PM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
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To: Liz; TommyDale; Spiff
PING!

>>>>But when Republicans were informed that Giuliani is "a pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay rights Republican," 47 percent said those traditionally liberal positions would be a major factor in determining how they voted while just 22 percent said they would not be a factor.

>>>>Conservative voters hold considerable sway in the Republican presidential primaries.

6 posted on 12/07/2006 9:18:38 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Nascardude

Obagasm! swooosh! Obagasm


7 posted on 12/07/2006 9:21:17 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: Nascardude
"Conservative voters hold considerable sway in the Republican presidential primaries."

Wow, political genius.

William Buckley has not stood down as a leading conservative writer -- he has clearly been usurped.

8 posted on 12/07/2006 9:23:55 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Nascardude
...in the survey released Thursday by Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion.

But, the big question: Has Cary moved up from last? I really want to know this... I'm rooting for Cary!

9 posted on 12/07/2006 9:42:51 PM PST by C210N (Bush SPIED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: Nascardude
Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is popular within her party but could have trouble winning the presidency, according to a poll that also identified potential hurdles within the GOP for former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Good...who needs two liberals running against each other.?

10 posted on 12/07/2006 9:44:07 PM PST by blake6900 (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Nascardude

When it comes to Dems vs Republicans, the Dems will vote for Hillary. Even the leftist whackjobs angry with her over the war.


11 posted on 12/07/2006 9:48:33 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
"When it comes to Dems vs Republicans, the Dems will vote for Hillary. Even the leftist whackjobs angry with her over the war."

I don't know. There's a possibility the right Republican candidate could get what has been called the "Lou Dobb's Democrats" and also what's left of the southern, conservative Democrats. If the Republicans run a "Democrat lite" candidate, the Democrats will vote for the real thing instead.
12 posted on 12/07/2006 10:05:02 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

Watch for Tancredo as a third party candidate. Hillary could get elected with 40%.


13 posted on 12/07/2006 10:06:00 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
"Watch for Tancredo as a third party candidate. Hillary could get elected with 40%."

What if someone like Duncan Hunter came out of the pack with some grass roots momentum? Trancedo would, I think, support him and he also has some populist positions attractive to certain Democrats.
14 posted on 12/07/2006 10:14:13 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Reagan Man; Spiff; jla; TommyDale
Conservative voters hold considerable sway in the Republican presidential primaries.

No question. Repubs cannot win without conservatives. The Nov debacle proved that......as if the party needed further proof.

Foisting Rudy on conservatives was a key factor in the devastating loss. Rudy was RNC's Mehlman fair-haired boy, tapped to campaign, and collect political chits, all over the nation. Unfortunately Rudy proved to be the kiss of death---the losing candidates piled up like so much deadwood. Mehlman was ushered out the back door for his troubles.

Conservatives also saw that the party's beknighting Rudy meant a purging of conservatives. The elitist contempt for conservatives knows no bounds. How nasty can they get?

One of the Rudy Tooters actually posted: "If the international or financial scene gets truly dangerous that would motivate voters to go with a proven leader like Rudy instead of an untested politically correct social conservative. The last thing the conservative movement needs in this perilous age is to be hijacked by cultural fanatics who coulden't (sic) find Irag (sic) on a map or read a balance sheet if it was stapled to their foreheads because there (sic) worried about a queer under their bed."

BTW, that quote will make a great full-page ad in primary states.

Note that "The Plan" also includes the manufacturing of an international incident, or a "financial crisis" to showcase their boy Rudy. The agit-prop for this escalates as we type.

15 posted on 12/08/2006 3:37:21 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Antoninus

I will do what I can to make sure that Rudy is not the candidate in the first place.


16 posted on 12/08/2006 3:51:27 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: Liz
I'm going to steal borrow a line from another article that's posted ...
Rudy's chances of getting the nomination are the same as Nixon's -- and Nixon is DEAD.

So pleeeeeeease Rudy go away - far, far, away. Or better yet, back where you belong - the Democrat party.

(And in your spare time, try seeing a speech therapist. Your lisp doesn't 'play' outside of Slag Fagcisco)

17 posted on 12/08/2006 5:13:25 AM PST by Condor51 (Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
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To: Liz; mariabush

This must be painful for all those Rudy supporters here on a conservative forum, supporting this liberal. We should save these poll results to use later.


18 posted on 12/08/2006 6:43:32 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Nascardude; melancholy
"For Hillary, it is: She is acceptable to Democrats, but is she electable?"

She may be acceptable to Democrats, but by the grace of God, she will never darkend the doors of the People's White House again!

Nancee

19 posted on 12/08/2006 6:47:10 AM PST by Nancee
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To: Nancee
by the grace of God, she will never darken the doors of the People's White House again!

It's her deal with the devil that worries me.

20 posted on 12/08/2006 6:49:23 AM PST by bannie
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