[seedman81]

Smoking has been banned in all restaurants here in California for some time. Not long after enacting that law, the state banned smoking in all bars, whether they serve food (usually snacks) or not. The law actually was written to protect the employees of the bar or restaurant, not the customers. Some small establishments have found a loophole in that if the owner has no employees, smoking can proceed. The general thought was that the bars would suffer but it has not been the case. They seem to thrive just as they did pre-ban.

[Namyak]

That's what Scranton's reasoning is, it is to protect the employees from exposure to SHS, the most toxic substance in existence. SHS is so toxic, there is no safe exposure level, at least according to the Surgeon General.

Philosophical questions aside regarding the employee's choice to work in that environment, if SHS is such a harmful substance, why don't they apply OSHA regulations regarding exposure to harmful chemicals in the environment to bars and restaurants? Take the most harmful substance found in tobacco smoke, and make that the basement. Exposure past that certain threshold for a 8-hour work shift is a violation. The reason they won't do this is because OSHA already has safe exposure levels for all the chemicals in tobacco smoke, and you would never reach those in a bar or restaurant environment. This has nothing to do with "saving" the employees from their decision to work at a bar, and everything to with control over our lives.

[demsux]

The general thought was that the bars would suffer but it has not been the case. They seem to thrive just as they did pre-ban.

BS alert

Source please

[nothingnew]

Some small establishments have found a loophole in that if the owner has no employees, smoking can proceed.

If I ever opened a bar, I wouldn't have employees....just volunteers. Then, every so often, like maybe once a week, through my own generosity, I would GIVE those volunteers some money.

I wonder if there are laws against volunteer work and generosity yet.

FMCDH(BITS)