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Britain starts to drop US term 'war on terror,' report says (Foreign Office urges term usage cease)
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 12/9/06 | AFP

Posted on 12/09/2006 4:37:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge

LONDON (AFP) - Britain's Foreign Office is urging government officials to stop using the US term "war on terror" amid concerns it angers British Muslims and undermines government aims, a weekly newspaper said.

The government wants to "avoid reinforcing and giving succour to the terrorists' narrative by using language that, taken out of context, could be counter-productive," a Foreign Office spokesman told The Observer.

The Foreign Office has sent the same message to cabinet ministers as well as diplomats and other government representatives around the world, according to the report.

"We tend to emphasize upholding shared values as a means to counter terrorists," the spokesman was quoted as saying.

Many British officials and experts, the weekly said, suspect that Islamist extremists find it easier to recruit followers when western governments speak of a war on terror, by suggesting it is actually a war against Islam.

Gary Hindle, terrorism expert at the Royal United Services Institute in London, hailed the decision to drop the term, though it was not clear whether it was being widely carried out.

"It's about time," Hindle told The Observer. "Military terminology is completely counter-productive, merely contributing to isolating communities. This is a very positive move."

The White House began referring to the "war on terror" in the weeks after Al-Qaeda attacked New York and Washington on September 11, 2001.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; foreignoffice; waronterror

1 posted on 12/09/2006 4:37:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Chamberlain would probably concur with that decision.

Peace in our time - Chamberlain
2 posted on 12/09/2006 4:41:11 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: NormsRevenge

Bet they cleared this with Bin Laddie too. A$$hole$!


3 posted on 12/09/2006 4:41:15 PM PST by Waco
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To: NormsRevenge

Yes, the term "war on terror" should be abolished. It should
be replaced by the more accurate term, "war on Islam".


4 posted on 12/09/2006 4:41:40 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: NormsRevenge
It'll be really sad when I have to tell my grandchildren that I remember when there was a "United Kingdom", and it wasn't the Saudis
5 posted on 12/09/2006 4:42:38 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: NormsRevenge

Excellent! Replace it with "War on Islam."


6 posted on 12/09/2006 4:44:03 PM PST by TeenagedConservative
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To: NormsRevenge
Britain's Foreign Office is urging government officials to stop using the US term "war on terror" amid concerns it angers British Muslims ...

Mary, Mother of God. Why would it "anger" any of those multitudes of "peace-loving, moderate Muslims" we're reassured constantly are out there? If you don't plan to use terror, why would a reference to the "war" on it bother you?!

Further, if you (meaning Great Britain) are letting your country fill up with a population so inclined, maybe that ought to concern you!

But let's do change the name. Let's start calling it what it is: the war on Islamic fascism! Even though we've apparently lost the nerve to actually fight it.

7 posted on 12/09/2006 4:45:36 PM PST by Western Civ 4ever
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To: NormsRevenge

It won't be long before we will do the same.


8 posted on 12/09/2006 4:46:43 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Why don't they just surrender to Iran now and get it over with? I'm so sick of this kind of politics. Do these people really believe a change in terminology will win radical Muslims over to peace? What kind of moron believes such a thing? A moron who deserves to die at the hands of radical islamists.


9 posted on 12/09/2006 4:46:58 PM PST by Maelstorm (May our weak leaders be swept away by the winds of history and may our enemies wake an Alexander.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I agree with them -- "war on terror" should be replaced with "effort to encourage people outside our love circle to hold hands and join us in singing Kumbaya"

It will be infinitely more effective than Bush's overly aggressive "cowboy" approach to our detractors. Not only that, it will decrease the frustration they have with us by making us easier to kill, if that's their bag.
10 posted on 12/09/2006 4:47:00 PM PST by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: beethovenfan
I prefer the term 'Crusade,' myself.


11 posted on 12/09/2006 4:49:26 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Yeah, that too.


12 posted on 12/09/2006 4:52:51 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Britain's Foreign Office is urging government officials to stop using the US term "war on terror" amid concerns it angers British Muslims...

There's only one way that should be answered...


13 posted on 12/09/2006 4:55:30 PM PST by Gritty (We think we can just call off the game early, and go back home and watch TV - Mark Steyn)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ok, lets call it the War on Islam then..


14 posted on 12/09/2006 4:57:07 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: NormsRevenge
"LONDON (AFP) - Britain's Foreign Office is urging government officials to stop using the US term "war on terror" amid concerns it angers British Muslims and undermines government aims---"

When "British" muslims unite and apply their rage to stop their government from labeling muslim extremists as 'terrorists', this is in itself a form of terrorism. Foisting their ideals and beliefs upon others through their rage and threats is the very personification of 'terrorism'. Why are Western leaders so blind to this fact? Why fight foreign "terrorists" and appease their homegrown islamoficist terrorists? The minds of Western leaders are so tied up in the knots of political correctness that they cannot think rationally anymore, save the Prime Minister of Australia, Mr. Howard. He is the only Western leader with a pair of ba!!$ and a rational mind.

15 posted on 12/09/2006 4:57:54 PM PST by TheCrusader
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To: vetsvette

The consolation prize will be ours. Britian will accept sharia law and Islam long before it threatens the US. I pray they've not killed hundreds of thousands here before we wake up.


16 posted on 12/09/2006 4:59:54 PM PST by chiller (Old Media is not yet dead. Turn them off and they will die. For the sake of sanity.)
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To: chiller

Careful MadIvan will threaten to punch you in the nose


17 posted on 12/09/2006 5:26:58 PM PST by uncbob (m first)
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To: NormsRevenge

I agree.This War on terror title is crap.This is not even a war the way its being fought.Its more like a police action.

That's not to denigrate the military but the politicians in both parties are stinking things up and placing this country at risk.A very big risk.

If this were a war we would be going after the sponsores of these terrorist groups,Saudi Arabia,Iran,Syria,etc.But we don't.

We are fighting a proxy war and it seems like we don't even know it.


18 posted on 12/09/2006 5:27:22 PM PST by puppypusher
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To: NormsRevenge

This is all the left wing which want to surrender immediatly.

They foreign department must be as left wing as the US state department.

No surprise since the left has been consulting with the democrats.

Big Brother would be proud.

Nevil Chamberli would be orgasmic.


19 posted on 12/09/2006 5:59:30 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good, because it is the international war against (snigger)"radical"(/snigger) Islam...

I hope the Euro-weaklings get that smug liberal smile slapped off their stupid suicidal faces.
20 posted on 12/09/2006 6:01:31 PM PST by Porterville (Fight without rules. Fight until only one side stands.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Fine. And we'll stop using some terms that make no sense either. Like "United Kingdom" and "British Intelligence"...


21 posted on 12/09/2006 7:05:22 PM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: NormsRevenge

Perhaps this will make the Brits feel better while they live in their fool's paradise. Me I'd rather know the truth.


22 posted on 12/09/2006 8:00:37 PM PST by xowboy
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To: NormsRevenge

'War on Terror' has always been too vague for me.


23 posted on 12/10/2006 4:30:20 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: chiller
Britian will accept sharia law and Islam long before it threatens the US.

When will this happen? Be specific.

24 posted on 12/10/2006 4:31:43 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Porterville
I hope the Euro-weaklings get that smug liberal smile slapped off their stupid suicidal faces.

Oh, that's not a problem. Getting the liberals out of America's Congress (after patriotic Americans voted them in there) will be a bigger feat. But I understand the necessity some conservatives feel to stick a finger in the eye of someone else when things are not going well at home. America's hunky-dory. It's the rest of the world that's messed up.

25 posted on 12/10/2006 4:34:18 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: D.P.Roberts
And we'll stop using some terms that make no sense either.

'We?' I speak only for myself. Who else are you representing?

26 posted on 12/10/2006 4:35:25 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: NormsRevenge

Another ISG talking point in the making.


27 posted on 12/10/2006 4:36:17 AM PST by TADSLOS (Mohammed was the L. Ron Hubbard of his time.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think we should stop using the "war on terror" phrase also. It's far too abstract and obtuse, like the "war on drugs". We are at war with terrorists and the nation states who support them- or, at least, we should be. Of course, we don't wantot be too harsh or hurt sensibilities, so we market it as a "war on terror".


28 posted on 12/10/2006 4:40:54 AM PST by TADSLOS (Mohammed was the L. Ron Hubbard of his time.)
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To: TADSLOS

wantot = want to. Typing too fast. Not enough coffee.


29 posted on 12/10/2006 4:42:25 AM PST by TADSLOS (Mohammed was the L. Ron Hubbard of his time.)
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To: NormsRevenge

We CAN'T win a "War against Terror" until we win a "War against Political Correctness". If you can't demonize your enemy then you've lost a means of fighting him.


30 posted on 12/10/2006 4:50:20 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Prodigal Son

Me and your mom.


31 posted on 12/10/2006 5:37:00 AM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: 353FMG
It won't be long before we will do the same.

January 2009, perhaps?

32 posted on 12/10/2006 5:43:07 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Prodigal Son

No specifics, just before it happens here. What's your point? Mine is that Britian is acting like our canary in the coalmine, imho.


33 posted on 12/10/2006 6:31:01 AM PST by chiller (Old Media is not yet dead. Turn them off and they will die. For the sake of sanity.)
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To: NormsRevenge
amid concerns it angers British Muslims

Unless one is a terrorist, why would one be offended by the term "war on terror"?

34 posted on 12/10/2006 7:09:28 AM PST by montag813
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
I prefer the term 'Crusade,' myself.

I'm sorry, but that photo is laughable, given Bush said--a mere six days after 9/11--"Islam is Peace", while taking his shoes off in a flithy D.C. mosque.

35 posted on 12/10/2006 7:12:07 AM PST by montag813
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To: Prodigal Son

There is nothing that can be done to save the increasingly misnamed "Great" Britain.

The only thing to be debated is wether you will surrender to Brussels before you surrender to someone else.

I hear that you may be withdrawing from the JSF program too.

Well, good riddance.


36 posted on 12/10/2006 7:17:27 AM PST by Axlrose
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To: NormsRevenge
the US term "war on terror" amid concerns it angers British Muslims

Perhaps we need to apply some persuasion.


37 posted on 12/10/2006 7:17:41 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: montag813

Well, what he says publically for political reasons and what he actually thinks are two different things. The man did take down both the Taliban and Saddam, and also straightened Khadafi up, so you have to at least give him credit for that.


38 posted on 12/10/2006 7:31:41 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: longtermmemmory

"Nevil Chamberli would be orgasmic."

No, he wouldn't be - he learned his lesson the hard way. Our present day politicians are the new breed of Chamberlains.


39 posted on 12/10/2006 8:21:18 AM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Three Million Will Flee Britain To Retire Abroad
40 posted on 12/10/2006 9:23:32 AM PST by blam
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To: NormsRevenge

How about "The War of Mid-Eastern Agression"?


41 posted on 12/10/2006 12:04:51 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Axlrose
The only thing to be debated is wether you will surrender to Brussels before you surrender to someone else.

First of all, I am an American.

Second, could you answer my question? When? Be specific.

42 posted on 12/11/2006 12:39:49 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: D.P.Roberts

Well, you have a nice day. And please, do not ever, ever post to me again. Dragging somebody's dead parents into it is infantile. I don't have time for that.


43 posted on 12/11/2006 12:41:18 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: chiller
No specifics, just before it happens here. What's your point?

Be specific or else you're just gloom and dooming with no real foundation beneath your prognostications. Any fool can do that. When will this happen? By which date? And if it doesn't happen by then, why didn't it? If you have considered the problem enough to pass judgement, surely you have considered all these things already.

44 posted on 12/11/2006 12:43:47 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Axlrose

Clean out the undoubted problems in your own backyard....

The British people havent become Chamberlains,nor will we.In fact there is a distinct backlash amongst us against the pandering to a Muslim minority(in fact a dangerous violent minority within that by and large decent, law abiding,hardworking minority)....

This is not just a 'white thing' either but increasing disquiet,concern and anger across all sections INCLUDING anti-extremist Muslim groups themselves(who as a recent documentary showed are doing so good work in Britain).

People are also fed up with Brussels and the EU(which is why Blair wont hold a Euro currency referendum 'cos he knows he'd be heavily defeated)

Unfortunately,it is the elite who have/are caving in,but not the average Briton.

So go on and write us off(whilst smugly ignoring your own problems to which energy woulf be better spent)....

The British have been getting written off since Ol' Boney....and dont we keep p****ing people off by surviving and remaining one of the great nations of th world.For some of us,THE greatest nation.

Oh and we are possibly leaving the JSF due to YOUR attitude not ours...

Good riddance?.....nice to see how you treat your best ally.


45 posted on 12/13/2006 12:54:38 PM PST by the scotsman
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To: Maelstorm

What kind of moron believes such a thing? A moron who deserves to die at the hand of radical islamists.......

I "feel" your anger.

And agree with it!


46 posted on 12/13/2006 2:12:52 PM PST by Grateful One
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To: Grateful One

It is hard not to be angry. Some of the stuff coming out of the mouthes of our world "leadership" is not just appalling but it makes one wonder what lens do they see themselves through. They keep pretending that Iran and North Korea don't really mean anything by their threats. They are allowing great rhetorical power to be wielded by those who intend to place themselves in a position to rule the world and if not destroy it in the process of trying.

Let us talk of assassinating a tyrant who is individually responsible for the deaths of hundreds or thousands and an out cry rises from the world. What I want is a leadership that makes decisions based upon what is real and what is right. Playing pretend with bullies is like offering them an admission fee to the school playground. The only solution to deal with those who intend to oppress is to knock them down and keep knocking them down.

These word games are going to get us all killed, well not all. The people where I come from would survive and most of rural America would survive. We'd fight till we had no fight left in us. I have to worry though. If the future leadership is any worse than what is currently demonstrated we won't be fighting just the enemy from abroad, we will be fighting our own civil war with those who just want to make peace and blame the jews.


47 posted on 12/13/2006 3:09:18 PM PST by Maelstorm (Refusing to look down does not make the rattler disappear.)
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To: Maelstorm

It is hard not to be angry.................

Indeed it is. I guess the most disheartening event for me, was when I witnessed our president (and vice president) wearing blue ties, president mumbling and stammering at the questions of a clueless punk reporter about whether he would admit that he "was wrong", etc.

I believed I sensed a finality to it all.

Our country seems to be without leadership now, adrift and without even the most rudimentary sense of the danger approaching.

Your sentiments have given me a lift.


48 posted on 12/13/2006 5:01:05 PM PST by Grateful One
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To: NormsRevenge

so does this mean its over? we won right? /sarc


49 posted on 12/13/2006 5:19:32 PM PST by isom35
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