Mark Steyn nailed Washington's senior dotages and their inane 79 point guesswork of a strategy. America should sue for terminal exhaustion. Its hard to tell if this country is a superpower or a third-rate basket case. How very apopros!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
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To: goldstategop; All
Mark Steyn is a rare and to treasured item.
Pity he cannot be the holder of high office; any high office where the only criteria is sound judgement and unfailing common sense.
Not to be wasted as a communications this, or press secretary that, but a position of substance. Maybe
"Deputy National Security Advisor for Having Your Crap Together".
Or "Special Assistant Secretary for NOT Screwing the Pooch".
38 posted on
12/10/2006 5:27:36 AM PST by
Gideon Reader
("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
To: goldstategop
We will still win this war but we are going to absorb some horrific damage before we let loose the nukes, and we will do that- when there is a Democrat in the WH with his Democrat Congress. It will be done in panic and anger, anger at the betrayal by the Democrats' allies whom the Democrats have done so much for and now the Stab In The Back as the third or fourth WMD device destroys a major portion of an American city. The will have finally realized that the perps are not just individual renegades that have eluded control by those wonderful mullahs and all the FBI work in the world is not going to do anything useful.
42 posted on
12/10/2006 5:44:28 AM PST by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
To: goldstategop
If they're lucky, this document will be tossed in the trash and these men and women will be the laughingstocks of posterity Well, we surely won't be so lucky.
The MSM and Liberals will be promoting this as the necessary "fix" for Iraq - every single hair-brained recommendation in a seamless web. It will be touted for the Iraq War as the 9/11 Commission Report is touted as the definitive document on 9/11 and the WOT, the Holy Grail of answers and solutions, until "nobody" questions it and any thinking or acting otherwise is evidence of "incompetence" and grounds for impeachment, or worse.
44 posted on
12/10/2006 5:47:15 AM PST by
Gritty
(The ISG Report is a Vietnam bug-out, but with the Jews as the designated fall guys - Mark Steyn)
To: All
Not to interrupt the prison-style tag teaming of the ISG, but perhaps it's a little premature to celebrate, considering;
1. The ISG doesn't have any paths to victory.
2. The Administration doesn't either, and will likely be incoportating 'some elements' of the ISG themselves. (In the interests of bipartisanship, of course. No more than half, though. Honest. Probably. Maybe.)
So, laugh while we can. These senile old coots may outfox us all, in the end.
48 posted on
12/10/2006 6:15:51 AM PST by
Steel Wolf
(As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
To: goldstategop
Bush Lite, of course, that name is already used for something else...
To: goldstategop
We love the (ISG) - Iran Support Group
53 posted on
12/10/2006 7:22:00 AM PST by
KeyLargo
To: goldstategop
"Oh, but lest you think there are no minimum admission criteria to James Baker's "Support Group," relax, it's a very restricted membership: Arabs, Persians, Chinese commies, French obstructionists, Russian assassination squads. But no Jews." That's got to cause some Liberals to pause. This is a sell out of the Iraqis first with Baker ready to throw the Jews in next. When will these people get it through their heads that we're all in this fight for civilization together and that Syria and Iran are on the other side?
54 posted on
12/10/2006 7:24:53 AM PST by
elhombrelibre
(Democrats are always more comfortable hating Republicans than hating America's enemies.)
To: goldstategop
James Baker has achieved the perfect reductio ad absurdum of diplomatic self-adulation: he's less rational than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.It would be hard to argue otherwise. Check out this article that also comments on the Iran and Syrai as helpers nonsense: Iraq Study Group: A Substitute for Victory.
55 posted on
12/10/2006 7:29:55 AM PST by
NonValueAdded
(Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
To: goldstategop
The ISG's plan is the 21st Century's version of the Munich Agreement
58 posted on
12/10/2006 7:36:23 AM PST by
Mo1
(Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
To: goldstategop
As I thought those two boobs Baker and Hamilton were on MTP this morning! Will someone please escort these idiots from the stage? And file their report in the dumpster!
60 posted on
12/10/2006 8:28:30 AM PST by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
To: goldstategop
So there you have it: an Iraq "Support Group" that brings together the Arab League, the European Union, Iran, Russia, China and the U.N. And with support like that who needs lack of support? It worked in Darfur, where the international community reached unanimous agreement on the urgent need to rent a zeppelin to fly over the beleaguered region trailing a big banner emblazoned "YOU'RE SCREWED." For Dar4.1, they can just divert it to Baghdad.Mark Steyn is simply a genius!
61 posted on
12/10/2006 8:31:31 AM PST by
Rummyfan
(Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
To: goldstategop
The American people are just tired of hearing about this war. We all know liberals forgot about the danger of terrorism a month after 9/11. Now conservatives are starting to feel the same way.
To: goldstategop
I remember one of them at the release conference saying "This is out of our hands now, we've shown you what must be done and now it's up to you to implement the plan."
So if we don't implement everything in this stupid plan and there remains conflict in the region, it's all OUR FAULT.
70 posted on
12/10/2006 9:42:13 AM PST by
Sender
("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
To: goldstategop
Indeed, insofar as this document has any novelty value, it's in the Frankenstein-meets-the-Wolfman sense of a boffo convergence of hit franchises: a Vietnam bug-out, but with the Jews as the designated fall guys. Wow. That's what Hollywood would call "high concept." I'd have to throw in the notion that the international community, especially the UN, has once again been proposed as the savior of the situation despite a track record of screwing up every pie it's ever stuck its grubby fingers into. In the context of Hollywood that'd have to be Dumb and Dumber XVI - everyone with a mental age of over 12 knows it's stupid but they keep cranking it out anyway.
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77 posted on
12/11/2006 5:15:46 AM PST by
SJackson
(had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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