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To: Central Scrutiniser
I'm not 'clinging' to a belief - that's reserved for evos. My belief is 'grounded' in truth. The Bible is the Living Word of God. He is never changing, always the same and His Word stands. 2006? LOL! His Word will be the same even in 3000!

I'm not itching to do anything - it's all in your hands. You cause your own judgment. Any man who claims to know more than The Creator is most prideful. By your decisions here on earth you create your own final outcome. Pointing that out is not judgment. Besides, I doubt you care about your final fate - finding a way for 'your beliefs' to be correct seems more important.

God's not responsible for your final outcome, you are. He will judge you just like anyone else - by HIS Word. He created us and then gave us an instruction book - a Book for all seasons - so we won't be ignorant. Men 'think', God 'knows'.

Furthermore, God does appreciate me spreading HIS WORD for He commands us to do just that.
53 posted on 12/11/2006 7:40:32 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name
I will admit that I am not a trained scientist, however I do play one on TV.

To no screen name and Elsie: No screen name, the Bible, which you claim is unchanged has undergone hundreds of revisions and translations over the years, not to mention the fact that it wasn't decided exactly which books would constitute the Bible until hundreds of years after the death of Jesus.

Elsie, The bible is also unambiguous about the value of pi;
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other:it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. (I Kings 7:23)

Did God change the value of pi to 3, just for Solomon? If the bible can be wrong (admittedly a small error, but absolutely and completely wrong) here, doesn't that indicate that it just might not be completely and utterly infallible?

metmom: The Cambrian explosion did not include life on land. Life did not appear on land until the Devonian period, approximately one hundred million years later. As for the time scale of the Cambrian explosion itself; dating is difficult as the major fossil beds are scattered across several continents, but the Burgess Shale, (the most well known Cambrian fossil bed) dates from around 505 mya, some 35 million years after the start of the Cambrian. For comparison, 35 million years ago Australia had just separated from Antarctica, and the first primates were only just appearing.

magellan and jim 35: It's not that the presence of more Oxygen CAUSED the explosion. It's that it ALLOWED it to happen. Since there was more oxygen, it was possible for creatures to become larger and more complex. This means that those mutations which occurred causing larger creatures would survive, instead of dying due to lack of oxygen.

And Jim35, hydrogen 'evolved' from its component parts, protons, neutrons, and electrons. And there are still single celled organisms because evolution DOES NOT mean that things become more complex, only that they diversify to fill niches in their environment. Not every last single celled organism is going to evolve into the next one, etcetera. And, yes, scientists change their minds when they find new data. To date, there has been exactly zero data which shows that either a)evolution did not happen, or b)evolution is impossible.

No, acceptance of Evolution does not require you to not believe in God. Evolution makes no claims, predictions, or anything about the existence or nature of God. What it DOES show is that the book of Genesis is not factually true. It shows that it is an allegorical tale, created by an ancient people to explain their origin and to explain the source of their moral code.
58 posted on 12/11/2006 12:46:38 PM PST by 49th (Freedom is the distance between Church and State)
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To: presently no screen name

Its a book of faith, not a book of science.

Prove it for me by building an ark.


61 posted on 12/11/2006 4:23:39 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought, and Conservative)
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