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TONGUE-IN-CHEEK WARNING ABOUT OVAL-OFFICE FELLATION ACTUALIZED (SPELLS TROUBLE AHEAD FOR HILLARY)
The Constitution, The Federalist Papers, The New York Times, BrookesNews.Com, hillary clinton | Mia T, Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 12/12/2006 8:57:10 AM PST by Mia T

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To: Lee'sGhost
NOTHING wil ever come of this.

So true. These people just don't get it with the people with power. They own the night news & these issues will be omitted. This next election will elect a president with probably less than 50%. Nobody wants anyone of these screwballs that will be the frontrunners.

51 posted on 12/12/2006 10:59:28 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Mia T

Unfortunately, there are alot of blind, oblivious, corrupt, and all of the above that just think they are
are and were so great, as they were destroying Our Country.


52 posted on 12/12/2006 11:52:37 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: Mia T

What can I say....... If bill clinton had been tending to business ... the SECURITY OF AMERICA ... would terrorist have trained in this country, traveling freely, in and out of this country, board our airliners with sole intention of flying them into the World Trade Center, a trade mark of the UNITED STATES, The Pentagon, a symbol of our strength, and The White House, where our President and his family live.

We will never know!!! Will we ever know?? And the reason ..... THE MEDIA (yes, I'm screaming!!!).

Who is this media, what is their agenda and I don't mean all those little people who write their column or ask their (same) stupid questions. Who are the people behind the organizations. Or, who are the organizations behind the people may be a better way of saying it. What type of people, organization, would protect a President being blackmailed by a foreign country for BILLIONS of AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS. What did they get out of covering up this scandal.

Strobe Talbet and Brooke Shearer names are in my "Clinton Lies" files. Not read in a long time, until this A.M., but never forgotten!!

"TONGUE-IN-CHEEK WARNING ABOUT OVAL-OFFICE FELLATION ACTUALIZED (SPELLS TROUBLE AHEAD FOR HILLARY)"

"Thus Larry Summers, Clinton's new Treasury Secretary, who had before was aghast at even the hint of approving IMF loans to Russia, suddenly began calling Chubais and his cronies a "Dream Team" for their "superb" job of running the Russian economy. The IMF loan was approved, the lid on Lewinsky kept on, and not until Linda Tripp taped her phone talks with Monica in November 1997 and Drudge got wind of it, did the scandal break. The IMF loan did its job, temporarily staving disaster off until August, 1998, when the Russian economy collapsed into almost total meltdown.

Now -- what has all this to do with Hillary?

One of Hillary Clinton's closest friends and traveling companions is a lady named Brooke Shearer. She retains her maiden name, for she is Strobe Talbot's wife. She also just happened to be working at the White House in charge of the White House intern program. The thinking goes that it is inconceivable that Talbot would not tell his wife that one of her interns was fellating the president and being blackmailed by the Russkies for it -- and that she would not tell Hillary.

One can easily imagine how explosively Hillary would have reacted, and how she would have demanded Bill cave to the Russian IMF demands. Thus her fingerprints would be all over a blackmail payoff of billions of American taxpayer dollars, and the resultant impoverishment of millions of Russians. She'll be questioned on this during her 2008 campaign -- as she will on so much else. The Russian Blackmail story will be one of many skeletons lurking in her presidential wannabe closet. It's yet another example of why so many Dems, desperate to recapture the White House, are so busy flogging alternatives to her."

Mia - this can never be repeated often enough!!! Thank you for keeping this in our faces. Maybe someday the media will have to report.


54 posted on 12/12/2006 12:07:41 PM PST by malia (President Bush - a man of honor!! clinton as President a man of horror)
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To: Mia T

<< Boris, Bill and Monica: trouble ahead for Hillary?

Dr. Jack Wheeler
BrookesNews.Com
Monday 13 November 2006 >>

Hmmmm .... Didn't I say that?

BTTT!


55 posted on 12/12/2006 12:16:19 PM PST by Brian Allen (B. Hussein bin B Hussein bin Hussein Obama is to Christianity what Michael Jackson is to hetrosexual)
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To: Baynative

The way your reply started off I thought you were going to argue that I was incorrect in my assertion that nothing would come of it. Then everything you said added to my position.

Nothing wrong with that, I was just found the contradiction a bit confusing.


56 posted on 12/12/2006 12:23:20 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Mia T
"Sex was not the crime but the context; by conflating the two, the clintons played both the left and the right like fiddles... and, some would say, they still are..."

Oh, I know about this ridiculous argument; never believed it for a moment. Anyone with two (2) brain cells knows better. Both David Shippers in SELL OUT and William J. Bennett in The DEATH of OUTRAGE cover what was really going on and what the Democrats and MSM wanted the public to believe; i.e. it was just about sex!!

The fact is it's about obstruction of justice, suborning perjury, and a whole host of other crimes which should have seen Clinton leave office in disgrace.

Nancee

57 posted on 12/12/2006 12:36:57 PM PST by Nancee
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To: Digger; Baynative; All
We mustn't delude ourselves... and we mustn't confuse the goal. There is only one imperative in '08. And that is keeping the clintons out of the White House.

What's black and white and read all over and is more self-destructive than pre-9/11 thinking?
Pre-clinton thinking, that's what....
Putting doctrinal purity ahead of making sure a defective and dangerous clinton never again controls this country is pre-clinton thinking.
We no longer have the luxury of time or circumstance to massage our sensibilities, to indulge our indignations.
We will not survive another clinton. (We may yet not survive the first one.)


58 posted on 12/12/2006 12:43:16 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Digger; Baynative; All

Make no mistake. Not voting, or voting 3rd party will be a de facto vote for hillary.


59 posted on 12/12/2006 12:44:37 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: malia

You're welcome.


60 posted on 12/12/2006 12:49:30 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
The only good that could come out of the election of
Hill-O-Ree is that the furniture she took from the WH when she left would be returned.
61 posted on 12/12/2006 12:51:16 PM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Mia T

Bump for later


62 posted on 12/12/2006 12:55:10 PM PST by Tinman (Yankee by birth, Texan by Choice..."Support the Troops" shouldn't be just a bumper sticker)
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To: Baynative; Lee'sGhost; All

We must marshal all of our resources. We must bypass entrenched power. And, btw, smart money on the left is looking elsewhere, witness Obama. They understand she is a dud. They know she has too much baggage.

clinton operations research is already unloading on Obama. Must view him as a real threat. (The dud must always run unopposed and absent in order to win elections.)


63 posted on 12/12/2006 12:55:51 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Tinman
thx. Could help but notice your name. Check out The Wicked Witch of the West when you get a chance. ;)

THE ACCIDENTAL APTNESS OF MISSUS CLINTON'S 'PRESIDENTIAL' MAKEOVER

64 posted on 12/12/2006 12:59:29 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
bttt
65 posted on 12/12/2006 1:37:28 PM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: AmeriBrit

thx :)


66 posted on 12/12/2006 2:36:22 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

bump


67 posted on 12/12/2006 2:42:58 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine

thx :)


68 posted on 12/12/2006 2:50:15 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Interesting, scary and, sadly, not all that shocking, knowing something about Clinton and his misdeeds while president. What an embarrassment to the office that man was! Well, for some of us, anyway.

Any assumption that presumptive 2008 Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton would ever be seriously questioned about this scandal is naive. She will be totally protected by her entourage and the MSM that adores her and longs for her to take power and destroy the America they so despise. Won't be long, now.

69 posted on 12/12/2006 2:56:07 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: gulfcoast6
I wouldn't count on it... ;)
 

The White House Booty
 
 
 
Letters .. thanked Lee and Joy Ficks for their 1993 donation of a kitchen set to the White House. Joy Ficks said she was surprised to hear the Clintons are keeping the kitchen set as a personal gift.

White House Gifts List

 
 
 
 
• $19,900 two sofas, an easy chair and an ottoman from Steve Mittman,
New York.
 
• $3,650 kitchen table and four chairs from Lee Ficks, Cincinnati.
 
• $2,843 sofa from Brad Noe, High Point, N.C.
 
• $1,170 lamps from Stuart Schiller, Hialeah, Fla.
 
• $1,000 needlepoint rug from David Martinous, Little Rock.
 
Following are gifts the Clintons received in 2000 and are paying for:
 
• $9,433 china cabinet, chandelier and a copy of President Lincoln's
Cooper Union speech from Walter and Selma Kaye, New York.
 
• $7,375 two coffee tables and two chairs from Denise Rich, New York.
 
• $7,000 dining room table, server and golf club from Mr. and Mrs. Ron
Dozoretz, Washington.
 
• $6,282 two carpets from Glen Eden Carpets, Calhoun, Ga.
 
• $5,000 rug from Martin Patrick Evans, Chicago.
 
• $5,000 china from Mr. and Mrs. Bill Brandt, Winnetka, Ill.
 
• $4,994 flatware from Ghada Irani, Los Angeles.
 
• $4,992 china from Iris Cantor, New York.
 
• $4,967 flatware, Edith Wasserman, Beverly Hills, Calif.
 
• $4,967 flatware, Mr. and Mrs. Morris Pynoos, Beverly Hills, Calif.
 
• $4,787 china from Mary Steenburgen and Ted Danson, Los Angeles.
 
• $4,920 china from Mr. and Mrs. Steven Spielberg, Universal City,
Calif.
 
• $3,000 painting from Joan Tumpson, Miami.
 
• $2,993 televisions and DVD player from Paul Goldenberg, La Habra,
Calif.
 
• $2,400 dining room chairs from Arthur Athis, Los Angeles.
 
• $2,110 china and jacket from Jill and Ken Iscol, Pound Ridge, N.Y.
 
• $1,588 flatware from Myra Greenspun, Green Valley, Nev.
 
• $595 pantsuit and sweater, Margaret O'Leary, San Francisco.
 
• $524 golf driver and golf balls from Richard Helmstetter, Carlsbad,
Calif.
 
• $500 antique book on George Washington, Mr. and Mrs. Bud Yorkin, Los
Angeles.
 
• $499 golf driver from Ely Callaway, Carlsbad, Calif.
 
• $450 leather jacket from Vin Gupta, Omaha.
 
• $350 golf driver, Jack Nicholson, Beverly Hills, Calif.
 
• $350 framed tapestry, Mr. and Mrs. Vo Viet Thanh, Vietnam.
 
• $340 two sweaters from Robin Carnahan and Nina Canci, St. Louis.
 
• $300 flatware from Colette D'Etremont, New Brunswick, Canada.
 
• $300 painting of Buddy, Brian B. Ready, Chappaqua, N.Y.

 

Chair Lift
 

Among the gifts that former president Bill Clinton says he is keeping as
personal presents he accepted last year are $28,000 worth of furnishings
that documents and interviews indicate were given to the National Park
Service in 1993 as part of the permanent White House collection...
 
Two of the furniture makers whose donations Clinton took with him on
leaving the White House last month say they gave them to the White House
as part of a widely publicized, $396,000 redecoration of the executive
mansion and not to Clinton personally.
 
"When we've been asked to donate, it was always hyphenated with the
words, " 'White House,' " New York manufacturer Steve Mittman said of
his family-owned business, which gave two sofas, an easy chair and an
ottoman, worth $19,900 and listed by Clinton as part of the gifts he
took with him. "To us, it was not a donation to a particular person."

Gifts Were Not Meant for Clintons, Some Donors Say

Sen. Clinton made another assertion - one that is equally misleading.

She contends she was not obliged to report the first Leiber bag she received "because it was received before the Clintons entered the White House."

But this bag, valued at $3,500, was received after the election and during the transition and therefore obviously was related to the Clinton presidency.

HILLARY'S STORY ON HER WHITE HOUSE GIFTS IS FULL OF (LOOP)HOLES
Dick Morris

 

 
But he said the Socks purse was given to Clinton during the transition in late 1992, before her husband took office...

HILLARY: I RETURNED GIFTS TO THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE

TRANSLATION: An earlier example of the clinton post-election/pre-swearing-in klepto-bribery scheme...

 

MORE: HILLARY: I RETURNED GIFTS TO THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE

70 posted on 12/12/2006 3:14:38 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Jim Scott
I agree. We will have to do it ourselves, bypass the media, the professional pols, i.e., the DC mutual protection racket writ large. Katherine Prudhomme and Swiftboating are two paradigms. And there are others.

Missus clinton's most critical calculation will be whether she is going to be allowed to remain a stealth candidate.

Will her fraudulent virtual-ubiquity via ads, Hollywood productions, programmed softball interviews, head-bobbing "listening-tour" photo-ops, etc., etc. while hiding in real time --her "misère play condition," if you will--continue to satisfy the entrenched power in DC?

More important, will it play in Peoria after we expose it for the fraud that it is?
WILL HILLARY CLINTON RUN?
COMBINATORIAL GAME THEORY MAY PROVIDE THE ANSWER


 

71 posted on 12/12/2006 3:24:39 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Jim Scott
The Left knows she's a dud. It would gladly dump her if it could. There is a nascent dump-hillary movement.

THE DECLINE OF HILLARY CLINTON: THE DYNAMICS
(SHE HAS ONLY ONE WAY TO GO. AND IT ISN'T UP.)


THE POLITICS OF DUMPING HILLARY


'HILLARY'S BIGGEST PROBLEM... SHE'S OLD NEWS'


CARVILLE AGITPROP + THE CLINTON JACKBOOT
'THE POWER OF HILLARY': THE TITLE



CARVILLE'S 'Clinton is electable! Clear the way!' BATTLE CRY SPELLS TROUBLE FOR HILLARY


Nina Burleigh: Do the Right Thing, Hillary


'HIATUS' FOR HILLARY?


HILLARY'S EXPOSED LEFT FLANK 'SCARES THE HORSES' (VIDEO)



IS REUTERS SENDING A MESSAGE ABOUT A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HILLARY?


ON REJIGGING GALLUP'S LOSING NUMBERS FOR HILLARY
THE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE OF ANNE KORNBLUT



HEAR CHRIS MATTHEWS + MAUREEN DOWD DEVOUR HILLARY


THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY
Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
(clip included)


SEE VIDEO: "HILLARY IS 'DOOMED'" (more 'plantation' fallout)


SEX, LIES AND SOCK PUPPETS:
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR
4


THREE WOMEN AND A FUNERAL:
HOW THE CLINTONS ARE HANDLING THE HILLARY DUD FACTOR
3


REINVENTING HILLARY... AGAIN
(clinton machine dumps Geena Davis for Margaret Thatcher)
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor2


SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor


HEAR SUSAN ESTRICH: hillary plays 'the victim' for votes


HILLARY FLUNKED D.C. BAR EXAM
"the smartest woman in the world" sought less competitive venue


HILLARY!?? WHAT IS THIS MORIBUND LOSER DOING IN THE POLITICAL ARENA, ANYWAY? (bill's bud explains)




COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006


72 posted on 12/12/2006 3:38:59 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

HI Mia

Thanks for the Ping!

Ang


73 posted on 12/12/2006 5:32:19 PM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: FlyVet

"I wonder if anyone in the talk radio world has gotten hold of this?"

Oh yes. Years ago, I remember Rush discussing it at length on his show; can't remember if he explored the bribe aspect of it - but he was at least at that time, aware of this story.


75 posted on 12/12/2006 7:39:01 PM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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To: Mia T

Yowee! Way to go, sweet! Now, if the Repubs will just give this some legs. Stay well....................FRegards


76 posted on 12/12/2006 8:30:39 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Mia T

How much did George Hefalumpulus know?


77 posted on 12/12/2006 8:53:58 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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To: Mia T

Good heavens Mia T., is this Wheeler a reliable source? Has this ever come out before, the part about blackmail?


78 posted on 12/13/2006 12:28:10 AM PST by yoe
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Nancee; Mia T
I've wondered if the Chinese were blackmailing him, too. Might explain his recklessness in giving them all our national defense secrets.

When this little indiscretion of Bubba's became public, a friend of mine that leans towards the Dems would not even consider that a foreign power would be able to blackmail a US president over such a trivial issue as sex.

And why wasn't POS Clinton's gift of defense secrets to the ChiComs more of an issue then, and even now? Is Hillary complicit in this?

79 posted on 12/13/2006 4:56:01 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Mia T
Not voting, or voting 3rd party will be a de facto vote for hillary.

Witness, the mid-terms.

80 posted on 12/13/2006 4:58:44 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: yoe; All
Wheeler's reliability is really not an issue.

He is relating verifiable facts, i.e.,

  1. that the story is making the rounds in DC and that "while convoluted [not really] and circumstantial, a number of plugged-in Washingtonians believe it."
  2. Yelsin's revelation in his autobiography about Lewinsky,
  3. the looting of the Russian economy by the oligarchs,
  4. the Strobe Talbot-Anatoly Chubais connection...
  5. and meeting,
  6. the curious flipping of Larry Summers on the IMF bailout,
  7. the Mrs. Strobe Talbot-WH interns-missus clinton connection,
  8. and the coup de grâce:
    • Lewinsky's testimony to Starr about "a curious comment of Clinton's after she performed her services: that he was worried about a 'foreign power listening in' to their activities and conversations. He was especially concerned about the many phone-sex conversations he had with her, calling her from the White House and Air Force One,"
    • that the timeline in the Lewinsky testimony and White House logs is consistent with the Yelsin and Talbot timelines.

In other words, the facts are verifiable and the conclusion is obvious. Dr. Wheeler's show of objectivity notwithstanding, any other conclusion would be 'convoluted.'

And as for Wheeler's hypothesis, that missus clinton was the one who insisted on selling the country out, well, she has a history....

81 posted on 12/13/2006 5:17:00 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: cowboyway; All
And why wasn't POS Clinton's gift of defense secrets to the ChiComs more of an issue then, and even now? Is Hillary complicit in this?

cowboyway

 

Is hillary ever not complicit?

Details:
WHY HILLARY IN THE OVAL OFFICE IS A NATIONAL-SECURITY NO-NOPART ONE


also:
HILLARY GOES NUCLEAR
PROLIFERATION IN THE AGE OF CLINTON



QUID PRO COAL2: CLINTON CORRUPTION + THE SEQUESTRATION OF GASEOUS FOSSILS
(HILLARY DOES COAL AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB)



BEYOND NORTH KOREA: CLINTON DELUSIONS, DECEPTIONS + THE BOMB
(THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED)


ON ICE: WM. JEFFERSON'S FREEZER vs. THE WM. JEFFERSON CLINTONS' SWISS ACCOUNTS


How To Get Rich Quick In Shady Land Deals Like Harry Reid and hillary clinton


THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN HILLARY CLINTON'S DISCLOSED ASSETS: An Alternative Theory


WHEN CATTLE FUTURES ARE THE FUTURE:
HILLARY CLINTON'S COW TRADES AS PROGNOSTIC



THE RUBES' GOLDBERG MACHINE
A STATE OF PERPETUAL CLINTON BEGGARY


INADVERTENT vs. WILLFUL NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION
TIMES BLINDED BY SELECTIVE HORROR, FAILS TO SEE STORY'S INHERENT CONTRADICTIONS





82 posted on 12/13/2006 5:41:11 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Great read.
Thanks for posting it.:)


83 posted on 12/13/2006 5:45:47 AM PST by Mrs.Nooseman (Proudly supporting our Troops,Allies and our President GW!!!)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman

You're welcome :)


84 posted on 12/13/2006 5:49:21 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

bump


85 posted on 12/13/2006 6:07:42 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine

thx Wolverine :)


86 posted on 12/13/2006 7:29:12 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Nancee

ping


87 posted on 12/13/2006 7:30:29 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: cowboyway
"Is Hillary complicit in this?"

In my opinion from my own study, as well as this excellent research on the part of "Mia T", Hillary is not only complicit, she has authored a great deal of the criminal activity these two (2) and their cronies have been and are involved in!

Nancee

88 posted on 12/13/2006 8:02:22 AM PST by Nancee
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To: Baynative
I just love your tag line!!!

"(There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress - Mark Twain)"

Nancee

89 posted on 12/13/2006 8:04:22 AM PST by Nancee
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To: Mia T

BUMP!!!


90 posted on 12/13/2006 8:06:25 AM PST by Nancee
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To: Mia T

Thanks, Mia. Been off the forum for a month or so, but have this bookmarked for later read and comment.


91 posted on 12/13/2006 8:07:10 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Rocky
Hi "Rocky"!,

"How much did George Hefalumpulus know?"

You didn't ask me, and I'm just respectfully ofering my opinion, but he knew and knows pleanty!

Nancee

92 posted on 12/13/2006 8:09:19 AM PST by Nancee
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To: cowboyway

I have come to the conclusion (after much reading on Hillary) that very little took place during the administration that she didn't orchestrate. She dispises our military and is much more marxist in her views than even Bill.... so, it wouldn't be a stretch to think she was complicit.


93 posted on 12/13/2006 8:56:00 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mia T
8-) I do enjoy your posts.

The nick goes back a long way. It was originally a CB "handle". When I really started paying attention to what was happening in DC, I began thinking that it was much like Emerald City.(I've often wondered if Baum intended to make his story a metaphorical critique of government, or at least politicians, but I've never heard it discussed.) When Clinton was in office, the analogy continued to evolve. (Can't you just picture ol' BJC behind the curtain, playing with his smoke and mirrors)

Like the song goes: "Oz didn't give nothin' to the Tin Man that he didn't already have."

Regards

94 posted on 12/13/2006 9:02:40 AM PST by Tinman (Yankee by birth, Texan by Choice..."Support the Troops" shouldn't be just a bumper sticker)
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To: Tinman
 

 

The nick goes back a long way. It was originally a CB "handle". When I really started paying attention to what was happening in DC, I began thinking that it was much like Emerald City.(I've often wondered if Baum intended to make his story a metaphorical critique of government, or at least politicians, but I've never heard it discussed.) When Clinton was in office, the analogy continued to evolve. (Can't you just picture ol' BJC behind the curtain, playing with his smoke and mirrors)

Like the song goes: "Oz didn't give nothin' to the Tin Man that he didn't already have."--Tinman









Well, with the help of the 100 corrupt and cowardly cullions, clinton walked. The senators' justification for their acquittal votes requires the suspension of rational thought (and, in the curious case of Arlen Specter, national jurisdiction).

Mia T, Musings: Senatorial Courtesy Perverted







"Impeachment did not have to be for criminal offenses -- but only for a 'course of conduct' that suggested an abuse of power or a disregard for the office of the President of the United States ... A person's 'course of conduct' while not particularly criminal could be of such a nature that it destroys trust, discourages allegiance, and demands action by the Congress...The office of the President is such that it calls for a higher level of conduct than the average citizen in the United States."


Hillary Clinton
Democrat assistant, 1974
effort to impeach president Nixon



THE OTHER NIXON

 
by Mia T, 01.11.99



ypocrisy abounds in this Age of clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson, posthumously misappropriated.

Shameless pharisees in stark relief crowd the Capitol frieze:

Baucus, Biden, Bingaman, Breaux, Bryan, Byrd, Cohen, Conrad, Daschle, Dodd, Gore, Graham, Harkin, Hollings, Inouye, Kennedy, Kerrey, Kerry, Kohl, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Mikulski, Moynihan, Reid, Robb, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Schumer.

These are the 28 sitting Democratic senators, the current Vice President and Secretary of Defense -- clinton defenders all -- who, in 1989, voted to oust U.S. District Judge Walter Nixon for making "false or misleading statements to a grand jury."

In 1989 each and every one of these men insisted that perjury was an impeachable offense. (What a difference a decade and a decadent Democrat make.)

Senator Herb Kohl (November 7, 1989):

"But Judge Nixon took an oath to tell the truth and the whole truth. As a grand jury witness, it was not for him to decide what would be material. That was for the grand jury to decide. Of all people, Federal Judge Walter Nixon certainly knew this.

"So I am going to vote 'guilty' on articles one and two. Judge Nixon lied to the grand jury. He misled the grand jury. These acts are indisputably criminal and warrant impeachment."

 

Senator Tom Daschle (November 3, 1989):

"This morning we impeached a judge from Mississippi for failing to tell the truth. Those decisions are always very difficult and certainly, in this case, it came after a great deal of concern and thoughtful analysis of the facts."  

 

Congressman Charles Schumer (May 10, 1989):  

"Perjury, of course, is a very difficult, difficult thing to decide; but as we looked and examined all of the records and in fact found many things that were not in the record it became very clear to us that this impeachment was meritorious."

 

Senator Carl Levin (November 3, 1989):

"The record amply supports the finding in the criminal trial that Judge Nixon's statements to the grand jury were false and misleading and constituted perjury. Those are the statements cited in articles I and II, and it is on those articles that I vote to convict Judge Nixon and remove him from office."

 

* * * * *

"The hypocrite's crime is that he bears false witness against himself," observed the philosopher Hannah Arendt. "What makes it so plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core."

If hypocrisy is the vice of vices, then perjury is the crime of crimes, for perjury provides the necessary cover for all other crimes.

David Lowenthal, professor emeritus of political science at Boston College makes the novel and compelling argument that perjury is "bribery consummate, using false words instead of money or other things of value to pervert the course of justice" and, thus, perjury is a constitutionally enumerated high crime.

The Democrats' defense of clinton's perjury -- and their own hypocrisy -- is three-pronged. 

ONE:

clinton's perjuries were "just about sex" and therefore "do not rise to the level of an impeachable offense."

This argument is spurious. The courts make no distinction between perjuries. Perjury is perjury. Perjury attacks the very essence of democracy. Perjury is bribery consummate.

Moreover, (the clinton spinners notwithstanding), clinton's perjury was not "just about sex." clinton's perjury was about clinton denying a citizen justice by lying in a civil rights-sexual harassment case about his sexual history with subordinates.

TWO:

Presidents and judges are held to different standards under the Constitution.

Because the Constitution stipulates that federal judges, who are appointed for life, "shall hold their offices during good behavior,'' and because there is no similar language concerning the popularly elected, term-limited president, it must have been perfectly agreeable to the Framers, so the (implicit) argument goes, to have a perjurious, justice-obstructing reprobate as president.

clinton's defenders ignore Federalist No. 57, and Hillary Rodham's constitutional treatise on impeachable acts -- written in 1974 when she wanted to impeach a president; both mention "bad conduct" as grounds for impeachment.

"Impeachment," wrote Rodham, "did not have to be for criminal offenses -- but only for a 'course of conduct' that suggested an abuse of power or a disregard for the office of the President of the United States...A person's 'course of conduct' while not particularly criminal could be of such a nature that it destroys trust, discourages allegiance, and demands action by the Congress...The office of the President is such that it calls for a higher level of conduct than the average citizen in the United States."


FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU! FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME! 

Hamilton (or Madison) discussed the importance of wisdom and virtue in Federalist 57. "The aim of every political constitution is, or ought to be, first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust."

(Contrast this with clinton, who recklessly, reflexively and feloniously subordinates the common good to his personal appetites.)

Because the Framers did not anticipate the demagogic efficiency of the electronic bully pulpit, they ruled out the possibility of an MTV mis-leader (and impeachment-thwarter!) like clinton. In Federalist No. 64, John Jay said: "There is reason to presume" the president would fall only to those "who have become the most distinguished by their abilities and virtue." He imagined that the electorate would not "be deceived by those brilliant appearances of genius and patriotism which, like transient meteors, sometimes mislead as well as dazzle."

(If the clinton debacle teaches us anything, it is this: If we are to retain our democracy in this age of the electronic demagogue, we must recalibrate the constitutional balance of power.)

THREE:

The president can be prosecuted for his alleged felonies after he leaves office. (Nota bene ROBERT RAY.)


"There are only two years left. What harm can he do?": Sen. Dale Bumpers


This clinton-created censure contrivance -- borne out of what I have come to
call the "Lieberman Paradigm" (clinton is an unfit president; therefore clinton must remain president) -- is nothing less than a postmodern deconstruction in which the Oval Office would serve for two years as a holding cell for the perjurer-obstructor.

Such indecorous, dual-purpose architectonics not only threatens the delicate constitutional framework -- it disturbs the cultural aesthetic. The senators must, therefore, roundly reject this elliptic scheme.

In this postmodern Age of clinton, we may, from time to time, selectively stomach corruption. But we must never abide ugliness. Never.

 

COPYRIGHT MIA T 1999, 2006



95 posted on 12/13/2006 7:50:42 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Mia, you are the best!

Nothing that comes out about the Cinton's is anything but horrifying.

Mary Shelly at her best could not dream up monsters like these.

96 posted on 12/14/2006 3:26:11 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Thank you, Jimmy Valentine. :)

I stood there slack-jawed, watching one powerful journalist after another clamor like so many fawning teen rock-idol fans to grasp the hand of the most corrupt president in U.S. history.

So many scandals, so many unanswered questions -- so many unasked questions. National security at stake. That little boy there, that little girl over there ... your sons, your daughters. Don't you care what this president has or hasn't done with our military secrets?

Paul Sperry
My picnic with Bill / How one reporter gave Clinton heartburn over Chinagate


This is precisely why we must keep those two monsters out of the White House... and the 4th Estate out of the 1st Amendment.

IN A 'PINCH': RETHINKING THE FIRST AMENDMENT
(Which came first, the 'journalist' or the traitor?)

by Mia T, 6.27.06






"What is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary."

James Madison




hen the founders granted 'The Press' special dispensation, they never considered the possibility that traitors in our midst would game the system. But that is precisely what is happening today. (Hate America? Support jihad? Become a 'journalist!')

This was bound to happen.

The premise behind the First Amendment as it applies to the press--that a vigilant watchdog is necessary, sufficient--indeed, possible--to protect against man's basest instincts--is tautologically flawed: The fox guarding the White House, if you will.

Walter Lippmann, the 20th-century American columnist, wrote, "A free press is not a privilege, but an organic necessity in a great society." True in theory. True even in Lippmann's quaint mid-20th-century America, perhaps. But patently false in this postmodern era of the bubbas and the Pinches.

When a free and great society is hijacked by a seditious bunch of dysfunctional, power-hungry malcontents and elitists, it will remain neither free nor great for long. When hijacked by them in the midst of asymmetric warfare, it will soon not remain at all.

If President George W. Bush is serious about winning the War on Terror, he will aggressively pursue the enemy in our midst.

Targeting and defeating the enemy in our midst is, by far, the more difficult task and will measure Bush's resolve and courage (and his independence from the MPRDC (mutual protection racket in DC)) more than any pretty speech, more even than 'staying the course.'

No government ought to be without censors; and where the press is free no one ever will.

Thomas Jefferson
Letter, September 9, 1792, to George Washington




It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would lie if you were in his place.

H. L. Mencken



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'MISBEGOTTEN' TIMES
(NARROWNESS, MR. SULZBERGER, NOT WIDTH)


IN A 'PINCH': RETHINKING THE FIRST AMENDMENT
(Which came first, the 'journalist' or the traitor?)



PINCH SULZBERGER, PEARL HARBOR + TREASON
WHY WE MUST PROSECUTE THE NEW YORK TIMES


INADVERTENT vs. WILLFUL NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION
TIMES BLINDED BY SELECTIVE HORROR, FAILS TO SEE STORY'S INHERENT CONTRADICTIONS



The Devil & the Gray Lady

 

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006




97 posted on 12/14/2006 5:15:47 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
This was already a terrific thread but, m'dear, you've made it an all-time "keeper"

Thank you.

Regards

98 posted on 12/14/2006 12:24:44 PM PST by Tinman (Yankee by birth, Texan by Choice..."Support the Troops" shouldn't be just a bumper sticker)
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To: Tinman

Thank you. :)


99 posted on 12/14/2006 5:04:57 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Nancee

bump


100 posted on 12/14/2006 5:11:53 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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