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ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION: Bill would deny state benefits
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 12 Dec 06 | Sean Whaley

Posted on 12/12/2006 12:43:44 PM PST by rellimpank

Assemblyman wants proof of legal residency

CARSON CITY -- Newly elected Assemblyman Ty Cobb, R-Reno, said Monday he has requested a bill to prohibit Nevada residents living here illegally from receiving most state benefits, including the Millennium Scholarship for academically qualified high school graduates.

Cobb's measure, now being drafted, would require a Social Security number or some other form of identification showing a person is a legal resident of the country before he or she could gain access to state programs.

Although emergency medical care would not be included in any ban, many other state programs could

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 3dollarwatermelons; aliens; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; invasionusa
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--would appear to have more chance than the Pahrump ordinance posted earlier--
1 posted on 12/12/2006 12:43:46 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

How racist! Not.


2 posted on 12/12/2006 12:44:41 PM PST by glorgau
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To: rellimpank
"Cobb's measure...require a Social Security number...showing a person is a legal resident of the country before he or she could gain access to state programs." How the heck has this NOT been the case up until now? If you can't get into a movie theater without a ticket, how the devil do you collect state aid without aid i.d.?!
3 posted on 12/12/2006 12:46:21 PM PST by utahagen
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To: rellimpank
Cobb's measure, now being drafted, would require a Social Security number or some other form of identification showing a person is a legal resident of the country before he or she could gain access to state programs.

Every illegal I've ever known - and working in restaurants and full-service car washes, I knew quite a few - had a Social Security card.

Those are not hard to get.

This requirement means exactly dick.
4 posted on 12/12/2006 12:46:47 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: rellimpank

Why should taxpayers pay for illegals to get a free ride? We should take all of their benefits away, and deport them back to Mexico, or where ever they came from!


5 posted on 12/12/2006 12:48:17 PM PST by NRA2BFree (May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care.)
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To: NRA2BFree

Another bill destined to be struck down by the HIGH courts, George W better put someone on the bench that agrees once in awhile with legislatures..


6 posted on 12/12/2006 12:52:45 PM PST by rovenstinez (,)
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To: Xenalyte

You are correct. And when the SS Admin notifies you that the Number and Names don't match up that is where the fun begins. You cannot suspend, fire, layoff or affect their job in anyway. All you can do is tell them they need to go to the SS office. You can not ask them about the outcome of their visit.


7 posted on 12/12/2006 12:52:48 PM PST by xowboy
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To: rovenstinez
"Another bill destined to be struck down by the HIGH courts, George W better put someone on the bench that agrees once in awhile with legislatures.."



George W. wants the illegals here. His next Supreme Court appointment will likely be an open borders Hispanic.
8 posted on 12/12/2006 12:57:08 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

If the next nominee is to be a Hispanic, then please let it be Emilio Garza, and not Alberto Gonzalez. With the former, we could expect generally good jurisprudence. With the latter, we'd probably be looking at another O'Connor in the best case scenario, and another Souter in the worst.


As to this legislation; if it fails, then perhaps they can put it to a direct vote as they just did in Arizona.


9 posted on 12/12/2006 1:03:57 PM PST by Aetius
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To: rellimpank

Legislation proposed that is consistent with Common Sense?......PRICELESS !


10 posted on 12/12/2006 1:05:48 PM PST by traditional1
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To: NRA2BFree

But that's insensitive to them.


11 posted on 12/12/2006 1:07:18 PM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NRA2BFree
Why should taxpayers pay for illegals to get a free ride?

Because our givernment says we have to - that's why! /s

note the misspell of "government" was not intentional, but I did not correct it because, well, it seems more appropriate with the typo.

12 posted on 12/12/2006 1:12:01 PM PST by Last Laugh
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


13 posted on 12/12/2006 1:13:20 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Last Laugh
Because our givernment says we have to - that's why! /s<,/i>


14 posted on 12/12/2006 1:13:49 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Xenalyte
"This requirement means exactly dick. "

That's affirmed. I'll bet a steak dinner in the fine print of this bill "some other form of identification showing a person is a legal resident" will include a utility bill or something else equally difficult to obtain.

15 posted on 12/12/2006 1:19:08 PM PST by moehoward
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To: rellimpank

The rest of the state governments should take note.


16 posted on 12/12/2006 1:20:22 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: lilylangtree; All

--as it says in the article, it is modeled on the Colorado law passed last summer. I haven't kept up with how that is working but do recall it raised some howls from the usual suspects--


17 posted on 12/12/2006 1:26:23 PM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Xenalyte
Another widely-used SSN scheme: the illegals name their anchor baby the same name as the parent. They obtain a valid SSN for the anchor baby; the parent uses it, no one checks beyond name-matching, if that.

There's also the scheme where former Mexican US citizens now back in Mexico rent their valid SSN's to illegals. Read on.


Some Immigrants Are Offering Social Security Numbers for Rent
New York Times 6/7/2005 | EDUARDO PORTER
Posted on 06/06/2005 11:57:25 PM EDT by nj26

Gerardo Luviano is looking for somebody to rent his Social Security number. Mr. Luviano, 39, obtained legal residence in the United States almost 20 years ago. But these days, back in Mexico, teaching beekeeping at the local high school in this hot, dusty town in the southwestern part of the country, Mr. Luviano is not using his Social Security number. So he is looking for an illegal immigrant in the United States to use it for him - providing a little cash along the way. "I've almost managed to contact somebody to lend my number to," Mr. Luviano said. "My brother in California has a friend who has crops and has people that need one."

Mr. Luviano's pending transaction is merely a blip in a shadowy yet vibrant underground market. Virtually undetected by American authorities, operating below the radar in immigrant communities from coast to coast, a secondary trade in identities has emerged straddling both sides of the Mexico-United States border. The number of people participating in the illegal deals is impossible to determine accurately. But it is clearly significant, flourishing despite efforts to combat identity fraud.

"There are people who live in Mexico who take $4,000 or $5,000 in unemployment in the off season," said Jorge Eguiluz, a labor contractor working in the fields around Stockton, Calif. "They just lend the number during the season." The deals also generate cash in other ways.

Most identity lending happens within an extended family, or among immigrants from the same hometown. But it is still a hard-nosed transaction. Illegal immigrant workers usually earn so little they are owed an income tax refund at the end of the year. The illegal immigrant "working the number" will usually pay the real owner by sharing the tax refund.

Since legal American residents can lose their green cards if they stay outside the country too long, for those who have returned to Mexico it is useful to have somebody working under their identity north of the border. "There are people who live in Mexico who take $4,000 or $5,000 in unemployment in the off season," said Jorge Eguiluz, a labor contractor working in the fields around Stockton, Calif. "They just lend the number during the season."

The deals also generate cash in other ways. Most identity lending happens within an extended family, or among immigrants from the same hometown. But it is still a hard-nosed transaction. Illegal immigrant workers usually earn so little they are owed an income tax refund at the end of the year. The illegal immigrant "working the number" will usually pay the real owner by sharing the tax refund. "Sometimes the one who is working doesn't mind giving all the refund, he just wants to work," said Fernando Rosales, who runs a shop preparing income taxes in the immigrant-rich enclave of Huntington Park, Calif. "But others don't, and sometimes they fight over it. We see that all the time. It's the talk of the place during income tax time."

The income tax "refund" is almost certainly generated by Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) fraud, which as a "legal resident" the number renter would qualify to receive, especially if they have have or claim children. The EITC is a "refundable tax credit, which means the IRS will pay it out even if no taxes have been withheld or paid in. So the IRS gives filers who claim the EITC "refunds," even if they have had no taxes withheld. These number renters can claim up to $4,400 for the 2005 tax year in EITC "refunds," most of the number renters probably claim this maximum refund.

The Additional Child Tax Credit is another "refundable" credit which is no doubt routinely claimed by these renters.For 2005, if the number renter claimed $14,400 in wage income, and three children, between the EITC and the Additional Child Tax Credit the renter would, without having any taxes withheld from wages, receive a tax "refund" of $4,898, plus have $892 credited to Social Security; in addition to the potential of thousands of dollars in California unemployment compensation.

18 posted on 12/12/2006 1:31:21 PM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Last Laugh

I thought the type was perfect and far better than any other I have seen. Put it in your tag line!


19 posted on 12/12/2006 1:34:36 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: raybbr

LOL!


20 posted on 12/12/2006 1:36:30 PM PST by Last Laugh
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