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Surrender By Any Other Name... [COULTER]
Human Events ^ | Posted Dec 13, 2006 | by Ann Coulter

Posted on 12/13/2006 3:32:21 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner

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To: Forgiven_Sinner
When spiritual wickedness in high places dominates the thought processes of these gutless elitists, destruction is always at the other end of the equation.
41 posted on 12/13/2006 4:53:58 PM PST by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of the righteous shall be exalted.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
But the point is: You can't run as a phony patriot and then claim your victory is a mandate for surrender. That would be like awarding yourself undeserved Purple Hearts and then pretending to throw them over the White House wall in protest. No, that's not fair -- nothing could be as contemptible as throwing someone else's medals on the ground in protest. __________________________________________- ROFL. I love it!!
42 posted on 12/13/2006 4:56:53 PM PST by Vinny (What is a liberal? Someone that is a friend of every country but his own.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
But the point is: You can't run as a phony patriot and then claim your victory is a mandate for surrender. That would be like awarding yourself undeserved Purple Hearts and then pretending to throw them over the White House wall in protest. No, that's not fair -- nothing could be as contemptible as throwing someone else's medals on the ground in protest. __________________________________________- ROFL. I love it!!
43 posted on 12/13/2006 4:57:37 PM PST by Vinny (What is a liberal? Someone that is a friend of every country but his own.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
When did "B.C." (before Christ) and "A.D." (anno Domini, "in the year of the Lord") get replaced with "BCE" (before the common era) and "CE" (common era)? "Withdrawal" is "redeployment," "liberal" is "progressive," and "traitorous" is "patriotic."

When did discrimination based on race or gender get replaced with "affirmative action"?

44 posted on 12/13/2006 4:59:35 PM PST by Retief
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To: EricBlair11
Maybe you better buy a clue before posting anything ever again. Frist retired.

I know this is going to come as a huge shock but we elect people to lead, not be poll watching whores.

We are a Constitutional Republic, not a Direct Democracy. Learn the difference.
45 posted on 12/13/2006 5:08:02 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Bob; sageb1

She should not have included BCE and CE in the list as Jewish publications have been using these designations for a hundred years or more.


46 posted on 12/13/2006 5:11:54 PM PST by tommix2
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To: monkapotamus

Who's the fat bald guy?


47 posted on 12/13/2006 5:12:46 PM PST by Rick Deckard
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To: EricBlair11

EricBlair11 Since Nov 27, 2006


Ah I see. You seem to have taken a wrong turn. Here we actually know facts about Iraq. You want Deluded United or Daily Krap if you want to simply regurgitate the screaming hysteric ignorance that passes for "News" coverage on Iraq.

If on the other hand, you actually have the guts to LEARN some things rather then simply chant nonsense slogans, try reading these.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Force

Why Iraq

One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the "Anti War movement") of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US's National "News" media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.

Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.

To start with Saddam's Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it's diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it's military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.

The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.

Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The "Holy" soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).

Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.

There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.

Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect" to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like "No Blood for Oil" or "We support the Troops, bring them home" or dumbest of all "We are creating terrorists" then to actually THINK.

Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their "god" will reward them for killing us.

So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.

Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming "We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad" and recruit the next round of "holy warriors". Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it


48 posted on 12/13/2006 5:14:23 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Rick Deckard

Phil Hendrie.


49 posted on 12/13/2006 5:15:14 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: Retief
When did discrimination based on race or gender get replaced with "affirmative action"?

About the same time "infanticide" became "choice."

50 posted on 12/13/2006 5:17:01 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

I will never, never understand liberal Jews like Ellen Ratner, Barbra Streisand, etc. I'm beginning to think they have a death wish.


51 posted on 12/13/2006 5:19:21 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Bob Grant would recommend The Tyranny of Words by Stuart Chase, but I don't think Mr. Grant is a FReeper, so I mention it in his stead.

ML/NJ

52 posted on 12/13/2006 5:20:12 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Our casualties in Iraq have been on a DOWNWARD trend for the past three years. The Drive Bys/MSM won't mention it. Compared to World War II, Iraq is pretty mangeable. But to hear the Democrats... er Defeatocrats put it, we need to hightail it out of there because we can't take a handful of casualties every month. One thing IS clear: if we do pull out, the world WILL see us as a paper tiger.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

53 posted on 12/13/2006 5:26:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Retief; IronJack
When did discrimination based on race or gender get replaced with "affirmative action"?

When did treason and sedition get replaced by "freedom of speech"?

54 posted on 12/13/2006 5:52:12 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

great column...

the situation is going so well in iraq that the administration was worried that the terrorists would give up and move elsewhere so they are feigning a lack of nerve to encourage more jihadists to visit the iraq trap and never come out...

we'll have this wrapped up in the next year and a half... then it is onto iran...

teeman


55 posted on 12/13/2006 6:07:48 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: EricBlair11

If they were men, yes they would. That's too much to ask.


56 posted on 12/13/2006 7:22:01 PM PST by pissant
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To: HardStarboard

We need another 50 Jeff Sessions in the Senate.


57 posted on 12/13/2006 7:24:24 PM PST by pissant
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To: RonDog; carlo3b; stanz; gakrak; massfreeper; hosepipe; Donald Rumsfeld Fan; MadLibDisease; fffff; ..
To be sure, last month the Democrats did win a narrow majority in Congress for the first time in more than a decade.

Since we're talking about changing the definition of words, and the democrats/news media claim we're losing in Iraq (even though we've not lost any battles), doesn't it follow the dems actually lost in November?

Let me know if you'd like to be added to the Ann Coulter ping list.

58 posted on 12/13/2006 10:03:02 PM PST by jellybean (Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

I like her line concerning Rama dan ding dong. It reminds me of the pro hockey and soccer seasons - you don't know when they actually start or end.


59 posted on 12/14/2006 3:50:23 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

She also hoped for more deaths of our soldiers as it would make President Bush look bad.


60 posted on 12/14/2006 3:51:20 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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