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Democrats, the deficit, and all they want to achieve
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 14 December 2006 | Peter Grier

Posted on 12/14/2006 9:05:10 AM PST by shrinkermd

Lower interest rates on student loans. More special forces for the military. Expanded prescription drug benefits for senior citizens. Greater federal support for renewable energy and alternative fuels.

Congressional Democrats have a long list of priorities they'd like to enact when they assume the power of the majority in January. After all, they've been wandering in the political wilderness for 12 years. They've had lots of time to scribble down stuff under the heading "to do."

But faced with record federal deficits and the expense of the war in Iraq, Democrats have also vowed to be more fiscally responsible than their Republican predecessors. Handling this impending collision could be one of the first big tests for the party's House and Senate leadership teams.

"Maybe [incoming Speaker of the House Nancy] Pelosi can really curb the tendency of Democrats to spend money, but there is a lot of pent-up desire," said Ron Haskins, codirector of the Brookings Institution's Center on Children and Families, at a recent seminar.

As yet, Democrats have hung no price tag on their forthcoming agenda. Many of the high-priority items they have pledged to enact in the first 100 hours of the new Congress, such as an increase in the minimum wage, wouldn't cost Washington lots of money.

In addition, incoming Speaker Pelosi said in a statement last month that the party is committed to "no new deficit spending." She said Democrats intend to restore pay-as-you-go rules, which require increases in the federal budget to be offset by either tax hikes or cuts in spending elsewhere.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrat; limited; spending
Well, promises are promises and they will have to do something.
1 posted on 12/14/2006 9:05:12 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Why do they have to do something? Politicians from both parties have a long history of promising things, not delivering, then getting re-elected based on the same promises.

Of course, they couldn't do much worse than congress has done the past 6 years in terms of controlling the deficit.


2 posted on 12/14/2006 9:07:27 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: shrinkermd

First thing they will do is let the tax reductions expire which the MSM will announce that the extra money just balanced the budget thanks to the RATS fiscal conservatism.

They will then cut military spending, showing a surplus which they will then use to pay for their programs.

Just in time for Hillary in 2008 to announce her candidacy and universal health care that will only cost each tax payer a teensy weensy bit of their salary.

The deficit will then go up to a trillion dollars, interest rates will once again be 19%, nothing would still have been done about social security and the RATS will blame Bush's failed 8 years in office for it,

And the MSM will eagerly eat it up.


3 posted on 12/14/2006 9:10:31 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: shrinkermd
As yet, Democrats have hung no price tag on their forthcoming agenda. Many of the high-priority items they have pledged to enact in the first 100 hours of the new Congress, such as an increase in the minimum wage, wouldn't cost Washington lots of money.

The price tag will be huge...and it won't cost Washington a bit...WE THE PEOPLE will pay the bill.

4 posted on 12/14/2006 9:11:14 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: eraser2005
Of course, they couldn't do much worse than congress has done the past 6 years in terms of controlling the deficit.

You'll be eating your words if they are even moderately successful at getting their pork barrel projects passed. Remember the bench marks as of election day 2006:

DJIA: 12,100
Average price of regular gas nationwide: $2.19/gallon
Unemployment: 4.4%
Annual inflation rate: 4.3%
Deficit as percent of GNP: 2.7%

5 posted on 12/14/2006 9:12:23 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: shrinkermd
In addition, incoming Speaker Pelosi said in a statement last month that the party is committed to "no new deficit spending." She said Democrats intend to restore pay-as-you-go rules, which require increases in the federal budget to be offset by either tax hikes orAND cuts in defense spending elsewhere.

Fixed for accuracy.

6 posted on 12/14/2006 9:13:33 AM PST by JRios1968 (Tagline wanted...inquire within)
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To: Vigilanteman
Unemployment: 4.4%

An understated number given that many have left the workforce or taken a permanent downgrade in job status.

Annual inflation rate: 4.3%

You can have that inflation rate. Any more than 2% is a serious problem.

Deficit as percent of GNP: 2.7%

It's not terrible, but you should be using GDP and not include the account surplus of Social Security.

If things were as good as your post asserts, Bush would have had a landslide and Congress would be Republican. He didn't and it isn't.

7 posted on 12/14/2006 9:25:21 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The Dems are all talk and zero action save for hate and diatribe. They have no agenda and will do nothing to advance our prosperity.

The fools who thought they were performing a referendum on our administration are in for a terrible disappointment. The Dems will get all of the blame for the worsening outcomes to come and will be thrown out in '08.


8 posted on 12/14/2006 9:30:36 AM PST by CBart95
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To: Carry_Okie

Well, lets add the National Debt while we are at it. At some point I would like it to reverse.


9 posted on 12/14/2006 9:34:25 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman ("If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.")
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To: CBart95
The Dems are all talk and zero action save for hate and diatribe. They have no agenda and will do nothing to advance our prosperity.

Agreed.

The fools who thought they were performing a referendum on our administration are in for a terrible disappointment. The Dems will get all of the blame for the worsening outcomes to come and will be thrown out in '08.

I'm afraid that's wishful thinking. Never underestimate the enemy.

10 posted on 12/14/2006 9:35:08 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
Well, lets add the National Debt while we are at it. At some point I would like it to reverse.

Seeing as the collateral is coming out of the hides of American property owners, the deficit is a lot more expensive than we've been led to believe.

11 posted on 12/14/2006 9:36:20 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie
He didn't and it isn't.

Chalk it up to the power of the enemedia who endlessly drummed discontent into the heads of the sheeple, the George Soros organizations who financed negative advertising and the stupidy of certain Republicans who were content to endlessly reach out with crap like "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" rather than stand on and articulate principles in the style of Ronald Reagan.

Imperfect or not, those numbers need to be posted to judge the next congress by.

12 posted on 12/14/2006 9:37:21 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Carry_Okie
The National Debt and the Deficit are two separate things.
13 posted on 12/14/2006 9:38:05 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman ("If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.")
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To: shrinkermd

Kinda hypocritical to complain about Democrat spending when the Republicans didn't do anything about spending.


14 posted on 12/14/2006 9:38:37 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: Carry_Okie
If things were as good as your post asserts, Bush would have had a landslide and Congress would be Republican. He didn't and it isn't.

Wrong. all it would take is the MSM beating the drum endlessly about the "great economy". Instead they beat on Bush and the "terrible economy."
15 posted on 12/14/2006 9:41:28 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Vigilanteman
Imperfect or not, those numbers need to be posted to judge the next congress by.

I'm afraid the administration will get the blame for the deeds of Congress. Bush is a well established whipping boy and it's his own damned fault for not fighting back.

Think what would have happened if Ashcroft had started an investigation into Chinagate, Ron Brown's death, or an Iraqi act of war on US soil at Oklahoma City. Instead, Bush has covered for Clinton to the detriment of us all. It's too late to do anything about it now.

16 posted on 12/14/2006 9:42:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
The National Debt and the Deficit are two separate things.

As are a balance sheet and an income statement, respectively.

17 posted on 12/14/2006 9:43:24 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)
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To: Kozak
Wrong. all it would take is the MSM beating the drum endlessly about the "great economy". Instead they beat on Bush and the "terrible economy."

We disagree by degree. The MSM bashing surely has an effect, but talking up an economy only goes so far. It imploded on Clinton before the end of his term.

18 posted on 12/14/2006 9:44:55 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Exactly why I advocate that Bush and Cheney resign sometime between Halloween 2007 and March 2008, making Nancy Pelosi president.

At best, this would give the sheeple a good sample of what life would be like living under a far-left regime and cause them to consider carefully their decision to let the enemedia and Soros influence their decision.

At worst, the enemedia would no longer be able to fawn over Hitlery as the first woman president and there would be an immediate cat-fight.

Bush and Cheney could look very magnamimous with their resignations (we need to break the endless cycle of partisan bickering, investigations, gridlock, etc.) and by Labor Day, the country might even be nostalgic to have them back.

19 posted on 12/14/2006 9:58:17 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman
Nobody could accuse you of thinking inside the box.

Unfortunately, I was convinced that Bush was preparing the way for Hillary before 2004. His choice of VP candidates showed no interest in promoting a conservative future.

20 posted on 12/14/2006 10:11:06 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: fight, submit, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Right and if Bill Clinton had these numbers they would be counting Social security surpluses as they did to .The only difference the media would have been wetting their pants and proclaiming the greatest economy in history 24 hours a day instead of the BS you are spouting


21 posted on 12/14/2006 4:07:20 PM PST by ballplayer
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