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The true sign of a meglomaniac pastor (of which there are many). They ostracize members, not for blatant sin or an unwillingness to repent, but for voicing an opposing viewpoint. The pastor of the church we left wouldn't tolerate opposing viewpoints either. He condemned such from the pulpit as a "critical spirit;" not for disagreeing with the Bible or basic teachings of the church, but for having a different opinion from the pastor. In other words, fall in line with Pastor Uber Alles, or leave.


6 posted on 12/14/2006 11:53:36 AM PST by My2Cents (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell)
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To: My2Cents
In other words, fall in line with Pastor Uber Alles, or leave.

Now you know why there are so many Baptist churches.......

18 posted on 12/14/2006 11:58:07 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: My2Cents

Not that it's any of my business but, is it a Southern Baptist church?


29 posted on 12/14/2006 12:06:19 PM PST by buck61
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To: My2Cents

My sister had a falling out with her minister after she told him that the problem with the church is that they don't pray.

Uh=oh, I'd better get going. I just looked out the window and I see sleet coming down. We are expecting a huge storm, and I need to get to the store.


32 posted on 12/14/2006 12:07:17 PM PST by Eva
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To: My2Cents

Yeah, I had a bible study teacher who reacted the same way. Question HER interpretation and you were smacked down as not knowing what you were talking about.

I find a lot of Evangelicals are this way.


54 posted on 12/14/2006 12:33:31 PM PST by micho
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To: My2Cents
You Are So Right! Another Scam Artist With A Congregation!
110 posted on 12/14/2006 5:05:21 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: My2Cents

I believe Warren's Purpose Drive Life also argues that congregants who don't agree with the introduction of pop music into church services should be thrown out, also. Apparently, he believes churches should be run like McDonalds--find out what the masses want and give it to them.


111 posted on 12/14/2006 5:08:06 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: My2Cents

Sorry .. when you have disagreements - it's meant to be PRIVATE - BETWEEN YOU AND THE PASTOR - not in a public forum like the media.

I don't blame him. I'd usher them out too. If they're not willing to talk with the Pastor personally and privately - then then need to leave.


115 posted on 12/14/2006 6:32:22 PM PST by The Final Harvest (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: My2Cents

The Church Growth pastors are all like this and Warren has been their god for many years.

Many ministers think they will be successful if they are little Stalins because of people like Warren and Schuller.


132 posted on 12/14/2006 9:39:14 PM PST by sine_nomine (Don't let another Bush lose another Iraq war.)
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To: My2Cents

Been down that road.

You are better off for having left.


158 posted on 12/15/2006 9:56:26 AM PST by sauropod ("Come have some pie with me.")
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To: My2Cents
I've been through a few church "splits" and most were caused by super authoritarian pastors. When you here members saying "well, Pastor says -blank-..." it's time to start worrying.
195 posted on 12/15/2006 1:37:15 PM PST by Uriah_lost (We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
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To: My2Cents

"The true sign of a meglomaniac pastor (of which there are many). They ostracize members, not for blatant sin or an unwillingness to repent, but for voicing an opposing viewpoint. The pastor of the church we left wouldn't tolerate opposing viewpoints either. He condemned such from the pulpit as a "critical spirit;" not for disagreeing with the Bible or basic teachings of the church, but for having a different opinion from the pastor. In other words, fall in line with Pastor Uber Alles, or leave."

Thanks for this input on this issue. I only have one question regarding churches like this:

Is Jesus good enough to be allowed to stay?


268 posted on 12/15/2006 8:21:08 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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