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The Russians Have Never Stopped Spying on Us
newsbyus.com ^ | Alan Caruba | Alan Caruba

Posted on 12/17/2006 2:04:21 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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I read something a few years back, about Russian special forces actually having a training area in the southwestern part of the country. One of those "lets all just get along" ideas. haven't heard much about it since then. Anyone else ever read about that?


21 posted on 12/17/2006 2:44:08 PM PST by freemike
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To: Alter Kaker

I tend to agree that Israel doesn't spy on us/US the most. No empirical evidence just logic.

And any country that doesn't spy on both their allies and foes is foolish.

I'm amused at the people who get bent out of shape when other counties do the same thing we do to them.


22 posted on 12/17/2006 2:44:20 PM PST by mgstarr
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Well now, that is surprising (at least to me), Eric.

Do you have a source/url for that opinion?


23 posted on 12/17/2006 2:45:18 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Conversely, is anyone here naive enough to think we ever stopped spying on the Russians?


24 posted on 12/17/2006 2:51:31 PM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: ozzymandus
All countries are run by persons looking out for the vital national interests of their country (there may be some exceptions in the case of the US). As such they have national goals which they use spies to accomplish.

In the case of the US, we are such an open society that all that is required is to pick up the information. Many times the Government agency will mail it to them in many instanstances for no cost.

This does not mean that everyone collecting info from us bears us no ill will. In many instances they would shoot us between the eyes in a second or cut our throats with the greatest glee.
25 posted on 12/17/2006 2:52:29 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends we need a 800 ship Navy.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Russia actually spies on the US more than it did during the Cold War. They also spy through Kazakhstan's and Belarus's spy agencies.


26 posted on 12/17/2006 3:34:45 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Cindy

I'm a salesman. I run into representatives of the French government in Mexico and SA quite a bit. They are mostly interested in basic industry plays. I sell to cement,paper mill, etc industries...


27 posted on 12/17/2006 3:35:38 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Thanks Eric.
I learn something ( a lot of somethings) new every day.


28 posted on 12/17/2006 3:40:23 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Does anyone really think we know, or will ever know, what other countries know about us, or what we know about other countries? Does anyone think Congress, or the Senate, or Parliament knows, or that they are ever told the whole truth?

If secrets are to be kept, it is innevitable that we won't "know".

Even things we think we know may be illusions created as disinformation.

Why do you think we only hear about intelligence failures? Could be we only fail all the time, could be the creation of an image of ineffectiveness is part of the illusion.

I think that the UK and the US know an awful lot. We have the money and the technlogy.

Does anyone really think we don't know what the Kremlin, or China, or Iran thinks? Or where Saddams WMD went? Of course we know. We don't say because that would just be showing off.

Even analysts within the security services don't "know". Ever wondered why so many analysts go public saying their analysis was ignored? Was it that someone else knew something else? Is the analysts public statement disinformation? Does anyone think all analysts are given all the information?


29 posted on 12/17/2006 3:50:44 PM PST by plenipotentiary
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Really? But, but they are our friends now! (sarcasm)
Only an imbecile would have believed the Russians were no longer the true enemies of humanity. They are evil, and will always be evil.
30 posted on 12/17/2006 3:54:54 PM PST by gedeon3
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Only an imbecile would have believed the Russians were no longer the true enemies of humanity. They are evil, and will always be evil.==

The old fashioned Russophobia. The last one who told such thing was Hitler.


31 posted on 12/18/2006 3:12:13 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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