Hee Haw!
We be a new specie!!!
Posted on 12/18/2006 8:12:55 AM PST by SJackson
Honey, repetition only works if it's FOR 'E', not against it!
--EvoDude
The Old Elsie and the Young Elsie has a great MANY variations!
Moooooving right along; when the Evo's (some of them) discovered my TRUE gender, they were quick to point out some possible 'confusion' on MY part about sexual identity.
It was quite fun to watch the attitude change in their responces back to me.
No more kid gloves... ;^)
Time flies like an arrow;
fruit flies like a banana.
its not a leg, is bone(s) that anchor muscles that stabilize the gentailia
I had quite a debate about that one with a Baptist friend. He believed that we existed before we are born and thought the bible indicated so with the verse you quoted. I don't agree. I think other verses say otherwise. But God is eternal.
Strange indeed! :^)
Here's an observation from Robert Jastrow [God and the Astronomers. New York: W.W. Norton, 1978, p. 116] that puts this matter into perspective:
For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.Got to get back to work! Thanks for your excellent insights, metmom!
To God, who is outside time, it would be a simple matter to look in at any point He wished.
Lunch is more fun.
When you are born what happens?.. Your spirit inhabits flesh or... WHAT?.. When you(your body) dies the reverse happens.. right?
If not... learn me something new..
Indeed time (to God) could be as pages on a book/Bible..
Mearly reference points.. to be pointed to as Proof..
Human books could be 3rd dimensional metaphor of Spiritual Dimension reality..
This is equivalent to "speculating" about whether or not two plus two equals four.
It is obvious on the face of it that creatures that effectively defend groups that include their relatives will propagate their genes into future generations more effectively than those that don't, all else being equal.
So that's why in the wild male animals like lions kill the young of their competitor when they run off the male and take over a pride?
Certainly. The question we debated was if your spirit is created right before it is merged/assigned to the body or if it had existed forever. The bible doesn't say that it existed forever so there is no reason for me to think that.
He felt that Job 38: 21 "Do you know it, because you were born then, Or because the number of your days is great?"
proved that we are older than our bodies. I believe that it proves just the opposite. I tend to think that adding something that isn't stated is as evil as removing something that is there. Therefore if something isn't stated, it isn't true or it isn't the least bit important to the edification of the Church in the opinion of the Holy Spirit.
(Well they are still fruit flies you know, and no is really sure the different fruit fly 'species' cant breed together either just because some evo says so.)
Ok, now you are being willfully difficult. Even when scientific evidence is presented you just simply refuse to believe it.
Once again, an animal does NOT have to change genus for evolution to take place!
By the way, I don't particularly like Dawkins, but I accept the mountain of evidence in support of the Theory of Evolution.
One big difference between me and you is that if scientific evidence or observation emerged that totally discounted the ToE, my whole world or belief system would not come crashing down. It would actually be pretty exciting!
But you guys CANNOT accept the ToE no matter what logic, observation or evidence tells you because it conflicts with your pre-established belief in a 6,000 year old collection of books. Science seeks to find answers to questions and to ask more questions. You guys have a pre-established answer and are only looking for validation. No matter what the facts are, they have to be shoehorned into your pre-conceived notion.
Science doesn't purport to have all the answers. That's what religion does. Science is trying to find the answers to their questions. Science's fondest wish (if one can anthropomorphize an intellectual discipline) is to find more questions from its answers.
(For "evolution plain and simple" I would expect to see proof of a fruit fly evolving into a bumble bee or some other completely different animal.)
How many times have I answered this? If that is your thinking then you don't understand the Theory of Evolution. Period.
An animal does NOT HAVE TO CHANGE GENUS IN ORDER FOR EVOLUTION TO OCCUR.
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