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To: BonneBlue; Abigail Adams; sissyjane; bonfire; All
"Never, ever go anywhere ... and not be prepared to spend some time out there, because you might get caught," Wampler said. "Oregon, the Northwest, anytime you get off that highway out here, you're in the wilderness."

That is a fact. I spent some time on another thread (I think it was a thread on the Kim tradgedy) talking about what gets put in my truck at the beginning of winter and stays there till spring...

Too many folks just assume that some rescue service will find them in time for dinner, so they don't plan for the worst. That is always, always the biggest mistake, especially so in the mountains (the desert too, I suppose).

It is always sad, as so many tragedies can be absolutely avoided, and even more could end up much better, just by having the "possibles" one might need.

At the same time, most of what I have contributed to this thread is in defense of the honor of these men.

I don't know them personally, but I do know their kind, and I find it unbearable to believe any scenario which treats these men like the average gumbies that bad things happen to. These guys were professional high-altitude climbers, professional big-wall climbers, professional ice climbers, and therefore professional mountaineers as well.

It could be that they all finally succumbed to the dementia that happens with advanced hypothermia and wandered away from each other, but there is NO WAY they would have split and left him there otherwise. It just isn't done. Can't happen.

It is as dishonorable an assumption as it would be to assume a U.S. Marine would leave a buddy behind, or any number of lesser highly dangerous occupations. Sure, it has happened, but it is the absolutely last choice (in all cases).

The caliber of man that can even begin to attempt what they do is definitely the REAL thing, and it would be unthinkable!

No, something awful happened there, they didn't get "caught", They didn't leave him, and he didn't leave them. Until there is evidence to the contrary, that is really the only explaination that fits.

If they were just "screwed", the optimum course of action would be to dig in together, or make their way back to the big snow-cave together. In the barest sense, the more bodies you have in that cave, the more heat pumps you have.

If they considered themselves equals, they would deliberate together and whatever choice would be made would be made by the three, or the other two would follow the leader without question. If they knew they were screwed, somebody would have called 911 (or etc), called ALL their families, written legacies... There would be evidence of the other two.

-Bruce

407 posted on 12/22/2006 2:29:42 PM PST by roamer_1
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To: roamer_1

I really think there was an accident, and James was the only survivor of it....

Thank you for your insightful posts.

Merry Christmas!


408 posted on 12/22/2006 2:46:26 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: roamer_1

Your comments make sense--there must have been some tragic accident. So sad! Maybe more clues will be found in the future that will help us understand what happened.


409 posted on 12/22/2006 3:05:23 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: roamer_1

Great post. I only wish James family put forth more questions to him.
Have a Merry Christmas.


410 posted on 12/23/2006 7:22:06 AM PST by BonneBlue
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To: roamer_1; sissyjane; Abigail Adams; BonneBlue

Roamer, are you still guessing that maybe the terrible accident happened BEFORE the storm hit? Maybe close to the time it hit but still before? BTW, my last post does not mean I've concluded there was no accident. I was responding to the ideas of bonneblue as to what she guessed might have happened. And her scenario was guessing no accident but possibly the deadly weather was a sole catalyst for the split up.


411 posted on 12/24/2006 12:55:23 PM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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