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Power to the Swift Boaters!
LA Times.com ^ | December 20, 2006 | Bradley A. Smith

Posted on 12/20/2006 5:25:17 AM PST by AmericanMade1776

LAST WEEK, the Federal Election Commission fined MoveOn.org, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and two other groups a total of $629,500 for violating campaign finance laws during the 2004 election. According to the FEC, these "527" organizations (so named for the tax code provision governing their activities) ought to have registered as political action committees, which would have limited their ability to receive large donations and, in the case of MoveOn and the Swifties, would probably have shut both groups out of the 2004 election altogether.

For decades, only groups that contributed directly to candidates, coordinated their activity with candidates or "expressly advocated" a candidate's election or defeat in public advertising (with phrases such as "support" or "vote against") qualified as PACs. But in a landmark ruling, the FEC held that even if the Swifties and MoveOn stopped short of using such magic words in public, they were PACs because their fundraising "clearly indicated that the funds received would be targeted for the election or defeat of specific federal candidates." All three organizations decided to pay up rather than take on the government in court. The FEC warns that future fines will be more severe.

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1 posted on 12/20/2006 5:25:18 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Power to the Swift Boaters, but Who cares about George Soros's Moveon.org?


2 posted on 12/20/2006 5:27:42 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: AmericanMade1776

We can't have free political speech. It might interfere with our first amendment protected titty shows.


3 posted on 12/20/2006 5:29:57 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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We can't have free political speech. It might interfere with our first amendment protected titty shows.

We can't interfere with the propaganda operations of approved government sources: AP, UPI, NBC, cBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, etc.

4 posted on 12/20/2006 5:33:31 AM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
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To: AmericanMade1776
If last week's fines have the desired effect, in future elections we will not hear from groups such as the Swifties or MoveOn. Instead, there will be issues not raised, points of view not heard. The funny thing is, we voters won't even know who is not getting to speak or what issues are not being raised. Politicians who want to "control their own campaigns" will find this to their advantage. But how this is an advantage for democracy, I'm not sure.

I am sure. It's a disaster.

5 posted on 12/20/2006 5:33:39 AM PST by rhombus
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To: AmericanMade1776
But isn't the point of the 1st Amendment that we hear these messages and make up our own minds, without the government telling us whom to believe or silencing voices before we hear them?

They are just figuring this out now?

Or are they just upset that Moveon.org was fined also?

6 posted on 12/20/2006 5:34:01 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: AmericanMade1776; smoothsailing; Larrywb; USN SIGNL MAN
What did the groups really do wrong?
Did they bribe or corrupt politicians? Well, no.
Did they make illegal contributions to campaigns? Well, no again.
Did they seek out special favors or illegally coordinate their efforts with candidates? No.

The FEC admitted that, after a "thorough" investigation, it found no evidence that any of the groups operated in concert with candidates or sought legislative favors.

The FEC admitted to going easy on the groups, given the "uncertainty" in the law.

In my view, there is no uncertainty — the groups did not violate the law at all.


7 posted on 12/20/2006 5:38:10 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Mo1

Interesting isn't it that Move on was not even mentioned in the title of this article?


8 posted on 12/20/2006 5:38:13 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: Just A Nobody

Maybe the Federal Election Commission is just dipping into deep pockets? Is that Illegal?


9 posted on 12/20/2006 5:39:36 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Is there a fund to contribute toward paying the Swift Boat fine? Free Speech isn't free anymmore in this country.


10 posted on 12/20/2006 5:40:46 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

especially when the article goes on to complain about how people (voters) won't know what's going on


11 posted on 12/20/2006 5:41:24 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Kerry had the US Navy protecting his bag of lies (can't give the public any info because it would expose Kerry for the liar he is, err, violate his privacy). Now here comes the FEC saying if you try and sidestep the protected wall both Kerry and the Navy put up to protect his public deception, we will fine you.

Kerry must be very pleased.


12 posted on 12/20/2006 5:48:58 AM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: AmericanMade1776
Nothing is illegal that our rulers say isn't illegal! The rules are different for them than for us peons, doncha know.

No doubt many Americans think that the Swift Boat Veterans were terrible, smearing the reputation of an honorable Vietnam War veteran. And no doubt many Americans think that MoveOn.org was terrible, making misleading and unfounded charges that undermined American unity in time of war.

While the article was more balanced than most, the statement above proves that the LAT believes their side should be heard, and the other side should be silenced.

13 posted on 12/20/2006 5:49:52 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: AZRepublican
Kerry must be very pleased.

Yes and he is already bloviating about it.

Asked by David Gregory on this morning's "Today" whether his dismal poll numbers would deter a presidential run, Kerry responded: "Not in the least. You know, most of those other people haven't had several hundred million dollars worth of negative framing against them."

Kerry's Cri de Coeur: I was Framed!

14 posted on 12/20/2006 5:56:55 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: AmericanMade1776
I am so proud my contributions made a difference. I would do it again in a heartbeat. The definition of "swiftboating" in the dictionary should be: "Making the truth known to the masses when obvious lies are presented to the uninformed public"
15 posted on 12/20/2006 5:57:52 AM PST by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: AmericanMade1776

If the article correctly states the FEC ruling, it seems the Swift Boat people were not fined for what they did against Kerry, but for how they solicited funds.

If their fundraising letters and web site had said they were going to "expose the truth of Kerry's service".


16 posted on 12/20/2006 6:10:10 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: AmericanMade1776

$629,000 ??

A small price to pay for keeping a communist traitor out of the White House.

Money well spent!


17 posted on 12/20/2006 6:10:23 AM PST by Wil H
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To: AmericanMade1776

The Swiftboaters should get the Presidential Freedom Medal. Kerry is quickly overtaking algore as "Fool of the Century"...what a pair of dueces, er...dunces. Same difference.


18 posted on 12/20/2006 6:15:50 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: IncPen

We can't interfere with the propaganda operations of approved government sources: AP, UPI, NBC, cBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, etc.



You nailed that one.


19 posted on 12/20/2006 6:17:41 AM PST by Senator Goldwater (STE.)
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To: rhombus
It's a disaster.

Not as long as there's an Internet. We need to stay vigilant. They're coming after it no doubt about it.

20 posted on 12/20/2006 6:35:22 AM PST by DManA
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