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Power to the Swift Boaters!
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| December 20, 2006
| Bradley A. Smith
Posted on 12/20/2006 5:25:17 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776
Power to the Swift Boaters, but Who cares about George Soros's Moveon.org?
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:27:42 AM PST
by
AmericanMade1776
(Democrats don't have a plan)
To: AmericanMade1776
We can't have free political speech. It might interfere with our first amendment protected titty shows.
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:29:57 AM PST
by
Mad Dawg
(Now we are all Massoud)
To: Mad Dawg
We can't have free political speech. It might interfere with our first amendment protected titty shows.We can't interfere with the propaganda operations of approved government sources: AP, UPI, NBC, cBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, etc.
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:33:31 AM PST
by
IncPen
(When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
To: AmericanMade1776
If last week's fines have the desired effect, in future elections we will not hear from groups such as the Swifties or MoveOn. Instead, there will be issues not raised, points of view not heard. The funny thing is, we voters won't even know who is not getting to speak or what issues are not being raised. Politicians who want to "control their own campaigns" will find this to their advantage. But how this is an advantage for democracy, I'm not sure.I am sure. It's a disaster.
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:33:39 AM PST
by
rhombus
To: AmericanMade1776
But isn't the point of the 1st Amendment that we hear these messages and make up our own minds, without the government telling us whom to believe or silencing voices before we hear them? They are just figuring this out now?
Or are they just upset that Moveon.org was fined also?
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:34:01 AM PST
by
Mo1
(Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
To: AmericanMade1776; smoothsailing; Larrywb; USN SIGNL MAN
What did the groups really do wrong?
Did they bribe or corrupt politicians? Well, no.
Did they make illegal contributions to campaigns? Well, no again.
Did they seek out special favors or illegally coordinate their efforts with candidates? No. The FEC admitted that, after a "thorough" investigation, it found no evidence that any of the groups operated in concert with candidates or sought legislative favors.
The FEC admitted to going easy on the groups, given the "uncertainty" in the law.
In my view, there is no uncertainty the groups did not violate the law at all.
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:38:10 AM PST
by
Just A Nobody
(I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
To: Mo1
Interesting isn't it that Move on was not even mentioned in the title of this article?
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:38:13 AM PST
by
AmericanMade1776
(Democrats don't have a plan)
To: Just A Nobody
Maybe the Federal Election Commission is just dipping into deep pockets? Is that Illegal?
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:39:36 AM PST
by
AmericanMade1776
(Democrats don't have a plan)
To: AmericanMade1776
Is there a fund to contribute toward paying the Swift Boat fine? Free Speech isn't free anymmore in this country.
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:40:46 AM PST
by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: AmericanMade1776
especially when the article goes on to complain about how people (voters) won't know what's going on
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:41:24 AM PST
by
Mo1
(Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
To: AmericanMade1776
Kerry had the US Navy protecting his bag of lies (can't give the public any info because it would expose Kerry for the liar he is, err, violate his privacy). Now here comes the FEC saying if you try and sidestep the protected wall both Kerry and the Navy put up to protect his public deception, we will fine you.
Kerry must be very pleased.
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:48:58 AM PST
by
AZRepublican
("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
To: AmericanMade1776
Nothing is illegal that our rulers say isn't illegal! The rules are different for them than for us peons, doncha know.
No doubt many Americans think that the Swift Boat Veterans were terrible, smearing the reputation of an honorable Vietnam War veteran. And no doubt many Americans think that MoveOn.org was terrible, making misleading and unfounded charges that undermined American unity in time of war.
While the article was more balanced than most, the statement above proves that the LAT believes their side should be heard, and the other side should be silenced.
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:49:52 AM PST
by
Just A Nobody
(I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
To: AZRepublican
Kerry must be very pleased. Yes and he is already bloviating about it.
Asked by David Gregory on this morning's "Today" whether his dismal poll numbers would deter a presidential run, Kerry responded: "Not in the least. You know, most of those other people haven't had several hundred million dollars worth of negative framing against them."
Kerry's Cri de Coeur: I was Framed!
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:56:55 AM PST
by
Just A Nobody
(I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
To: AmericanMade1776
I am so proud my contributions made a difference. I would do it again in a heartbeat. The definition of "swiftboating" in the dictionary should be: "Making the truth known to the masses when obvious lies are presented to the uninformed public"
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posted on
12/20/2006 5:57:52 AM PST
by
RVN Airplane Driver
("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
To: AmericanMade1776
If the article correctly states the FEC ruling, it seems the Swift Boat people were not fined for what they did against Kerry, but for how they solicited funds.
If their fundraising letters and web site had said they were going to "expose the truth of Kerry's service".
To: AmericanMade1776
$629,000 ??
A small price to pay for keeping a communist traitor out of the White House.
Money well spent!
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posted on
12/20/2006 6:10:23 AM PST
by
Wil H
To: AmericanMade1776
The Swiftboaters should get the Presidential Freedom Medal. Kerry is quickly overtaking algore as "Fool of the Century"...what a pair of dueces, er...dunces. Same difference.
To: IncPen
We can't interfere with the propaganda operations of approved government sources: AP, UPI, NBC, cBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, etc.
You nailed that one.
To: rhombus
It's a disaster. Not as long as there's an Internet. We need to stay vigilant. They're coming after it no doubt about it.
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posted on
12/20/2006 6:35:22 AM PST
by
DManA
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