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Two points... First, who is your social conservative candidate? Maybe I'll vote for him/her but whenever I ask that question I get no answer - just GOP, RINO and NeoCon trash talk. A social conservative has to win a GOP primary. Second, when has a social conservative won in recent history.

100% agree with your post. From your earlier post, though, it seemed like you were advocating voting for the GOP no matter what.

The only way that Hillary wins is if the GOP goes even further into the socialism mode. For some reason the GOP just can't get it through it's head that socialists vote for the Democratic party. The only thing that implementing socialistic policies does for the GOP is negate that difference between them and the Dems among fiscal conservatives and makes them reevaluate their vote considering other issues.

The GOP has 2 years to rid itself of the Christian-socialist party. If the GOP would return to being friendly to civil liberties and fiscal conservatism then the democrats would never be in the majority.

I agree about civil liberties and fiscal conservatism being the keys to success. Yeah the move to socialism has really hurt...but it's so seductive for politicians to promise people to help with their health care payments, help with paying for college, more money for social security, etc, etc. Compassionate Conservative I believe WAS a necessary strategery to win in 2000 during the last nanny-state "recession". Of course it grew out of control and turned into vote buying for various reasons (some good like funding the war, some shameful like set asides).

Abortion and gay marriage are two of the really big issues that many so called "real" conservatives (social conservatives, paleoconservatives) draw a line in the sand over with respect to the current GOP poll leaders. I think if handled poorly these are loser issues. The issue should be judicial legislation not the right or wrong of abortion and gay marriage but few have kept the focus on the WAY these things were made legal.

I wouldn't argue that I'd vote for the GOP no matter what but I'm sorry to say that probably will happen the way things are shaping up. There's no way I'm voting for Hillary, Obama, Edwards or any of the other Democrats and voting 3rd party would just be too selfish on my part and just result in a Democratic victory. I understand the strategy argument of hanging tough against the GOP but I just don't see them being bluffed into nominating....whom?

Perhaps you can explain your comment about the GOP "ridding" itself of the "Christian-socialist" party. At initial glance, it appears you're lumping Christians and socialists into the same group. If I understood you correctly, you're pretty ignorant. I am a born-again Christian and most decidedly NOT a socialist--I spent twenty years on active duty in the US Air Force.

What exactly do you mean by suggesting that the GOP needs to "return to being friendly to civil liberties"? When have the Republicans NOT been friendly to civil liberties? What civil liberties are you referring to?

As for the GOP "ridding" itself of Christians (its core support group, whether you like it/agree with it or not), all they have to do is continue their present heading. Christians left the GOP in droves in 06 and unless the GOP returns to its roots, the same thing will happen in 08. If that's the way it turns out, the GOP leadership will have nobody to blame but themselves.

Get this: Christians support candidates whose policies line up with Christian beliefs. That would not describe any major Democrat that I know of, nor would it describe Rudy Giuliani or John McCain. It's not enough for a person to have done admirable things in the past. If candidates want Christian support, they must advocate godly policies. If they don't, Christians will stay home and the GOP will take another beating in 08.