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"What Is Wrong With the Press?"
C-Span | 12/29/06 | self

Posted on 12/29/2006 5:53:10 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion

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To: conservativeharleyguy
Yes.....but many times I see real "facts" published...but only in "terms" that the MSM Clymers want to publish them.

Their specialty is spin....Facts can be twisted, spun, faded, hidden, twisted..etc..etc..

41 posted on 12/29/2006 3:00:00 PM PST by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: caseinpoint

Good post........


42 posted on 12/29/2006 3:01:25 PM PST by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
I don't even know why newspapers and such have editorial sections. The whole paper is one big editorial.

. . . The press' job is not to be for or against anything. Their job is to print the facts, period.

Those two statements are in direct conflict. It is true that "The whole paper is one big editorial." Under the First Amendment, it is allowed to be "one big editorial."

If it is entitled to be "one big editorial," and in actual experience it is "one big editorial," in what sense is it the newspaper's job "to print the facts, period," and to "not to be for or against anything?" The answer, of course, is that the newspaper is in fact highly partisan, in both fact and intention, and any claims it makes to the contrary are themselves exemplars of the most extreme partisanship.


43 posted on 12/29/2006 3:04:56 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Landru
LSMedia has never covered up what they are, not to those who could read.

Never denied what they stand for, not for those who could see.

But speaking from my own experience, Big Journalism has been able to con most of us that that way, even though as you say their actual behavior, contrasting as it does with its professed standards, has been in plain view all along.

I myself was in my late thirties, back in the late seventies, before I clearly realized that (in retrospect obvious) contradiction.


44 posted on 12/29/2006 4:19:44 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; Osage Orange

Sorry 'bout that, folks! I take full responsibility for my own stupidity. Now if only the MSM would do the same.


45 posted on 12/29/2006 4:32:25 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: JmyBryan
They are cynics, not skeptics. They believe in nothing but some kind of unattainable perfection.
My take is that everyone believes in something, and journalists are cynical about everyone except Big Journalism. About Big Journalism, journalists are naive as a babe. And that maps to naivete about socialism as well. There is no difference between the interest and self image of journalism and the interests of socialism.

46 posted on 12/29/2006 4:36:18 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

The MSM, is dominated by women, and feminists of both genders....


47 posted on 12/29/2006 4:37:10 PM PST by thinking
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To: meema
I watched it too. Helen insisting that she and others write 'the truth'...It was interesting.
It is not enough to report "the truth," because it's impossible to report all truth. Your perspective can be seen in what you do not report. And what journalism does not report - what "isn't news" - is, by and large, conservatism. Things like employment (as opposed to unemployment). And good news generally.

It's true that bad news sells and good news doesn't - but that is a matter of the self interest not of the public but of journalism. Bad news is obviously - the thing speaks for itself - bad. And journalism's self interest is in bad news. And whether or not you are a journalist, expressing your self interest is not identical with expression the public interest generally.


49 posted on 12/29/2006 5:12:12 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Esactly! She was so angry when someone pointed out that "the truth" is always subjective.
Helen believe that HER truth is the only real truth.


50 posted on 12/29/2006 5:56:30 PM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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