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Iraq Expels 2 Iranians Detained by U.S.
Washington Post ^ | 12/30/06

Posted on 12/30/2006 2:16:07 PM PST by bnelson44

BAGHDAD, Dec. 29 -- Two senior Iranian operatives who were detained by U.S. forces in Iraq and were strongly suspected of planning attacks against American military forces and Iraqi targets were expelled to Iran on Friday, according to U.S. and Iraqi officials.

The decision to free the men was made by the Iraqi government and has angered U.S. military officials who say the operatives were seeking to foment instability here.

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"These are really serious people," said one U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "They were the target of a very focused raid based on intelligence, and it would be hard for one to believe that their activities weren't endorsed by the Iranian government. It's a situation that is obviously troubling."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: badmove; cowardice; failure; incompetence; iran; iranianoperatives; iraq
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Maybe if the Republicans can't control events in Iraq it is time to throw them all out of office.
1 posted on 12/30/2006 2:16:10 PM PST by bnelson44
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To: bnelson44

Well, detaining them was a mistake. i mean, detaining them alive.


2 posted on 12/30/2006 2:17:21 PM PST by GSlob
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To: bnelson44

Next time they're captured, don't turn them over to the Iraqis.

Instead put panties on their heads.


3 posted on 12/30/2006 2:21:31 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: bnelson44
Despite their frustration at the release of the Iranians, U.S. officials said a strong message has been sent to Iran that its operatives will be tracked down and that it will be held accountable for its activities in Iraq.

That's putting a brave face on things. In fact, the message was that such men, far from being held accountable, will be released under the fiction that diplomatic immunity covers participation in guerilla warfare. It does not.

It is, of course, for the Iraqis to decide such matters, but these particular men were also involved in murdering U.S. troops. For the Iraqi government to place its stamp of approval on such activities by releasing these men is profoundly disturbing.

4 posted on 12/30/2006 2:26:29 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SandRat; Marine_Uncle

I am very frustrated and right now would vote every republican I could out of office.


5 posted on 12/30/2006 2:34:14 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (We are going to win!))
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To: Billthedrill

It's becoming disturbingly obvious that the current Maliki government is an Iranian sock puppet, and that Ahmanutjob is slowly but surely stealing Iraq right out from under us.


6 posted on 12/30/2006 3:25:12 PM PST by Argus
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To: bnelson44

When German saboteurs were captured in New York during World War II, Roosevelt insisted they be executed. The executions were intended to serve as an example of what would happen if sabotage was attempted again. We need people today who can see things with Roosevelt's clarity.


7 posted on 12/30/2006 3:57:35 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: bnelson44

Expeling the Iranians puts paid to the fiction that the operatives were "invited" into Iraq. Either they were invited, in which they were wrongly detained, or else they were not, in which case Iran has culpability.

One trusts that these operatives are being bugged and tracked. Must be some interesting conversations going on in the Tehran debriefing room today.


8 posted on 12/30/2006 4:02:52 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: bnelson44

"These are really serious people," said one U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity. "They were the target of a very focused raid based on intelligence, and it would be hard for one to believe that their activities weren't endorsed by the Iranian government. It's a situation that is obviously troubling."

One of the commanders, identified by officials simply as Chizari, was the third-highest-ranking official of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' al-Quds Brigade, the unit most active in aiding, arming and training groups outside Iran, including Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said. The other commander was described as equally significant to Iran's support of foreign militaries but not as high-ranking."


9 posted on 12/30/2006 4:05:40 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Southack

"U.S. defense officials familiar with the raids said the captured Iranians had detailed weapons lists, documents pertaining to shipments of weapons into Iraq, organizational charts, telephone records and maps, among other sensitive intelligence information. Officials were particularly concerned by the fact that the Iranians had information about importing modern, specially shaped explosive charges into Iraq, weapons that have been used in roadside bombs to target U.S. military armored vehicles."

""The evidence shows that they were exactly up to the things our suspicions indicated," said one U.S. defense official.

Adding to the political sensitivity of the situation, the two men were detained while inside the compound of Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, one of the most powerful Shiite leaders in Iraq."



10 posted on 12/30/2006 4:07:55 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: AdmSmith; Dog; freedom44; Valin

"U.S. officials said they now had a treasure trove of data from computers and documents and the lists of weaponry recently shipped to Iraq.

"The materials they had will factor into additional planning for operations and will likely be very helpful," said a U.S. defense official. "But with weapons and advanced IEDs [improvised explosive devices] coming into the country, we've identified a major problem."


11 posted on 12/30/2006 4:15:07 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: GSlob

The US is looking more and more like the Jackass of the world!


12 posted on 12/30/2006 5:55:39 PM PST by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY!)
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To: nuconvert

"It's a situation that is obviously troubling."

Not as troubling as seeing the US becoming the fumbing idiots they have become now in Iraq!


13 posted on 12/30/2006 5:58:08 PM PST by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY!)
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To: nuconvert

Perhaps Bush will go down in history as the second most idiotic president...


14 posted on 12/30/2006 6:05:04 PM PST by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY!)
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To: observer5

??


15 posted on 12/30/2006 6:18:38 PM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: bnelson44; Southack; nuconvert; Billthedrill
Keep the faith. It is easy at times to just get totally and royally pissed off.
And South. On this one I can't go along with your suggestion. In order to bug them, they would have to be put to sleep for a short time to somehow implant a bug whatever form that may take. And surely they will be catscanned etc., to make sure nothing is inside them once returned to Iran.
At least our military have made it clear they are not at all pleased with letting such a high value clown be returned.
But if we got all the stuff that is in this article it would appear we have who is doing what pretty well mapped out. And for all we know, the "high ranking agent" may have been instructed as to what to tell the Iranians he reports to, that the gig is up, and they will be closed down by force in the months to come, or something to that effect.
It may not be as bad as it first appears.
16 posted on 12/30/2006 8:51:09 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Marine_Uncle
I hope you're right. The difficulty with this sort of thing is that one only ever gets the tip of the iceberg even if one is in the intel loop. Distilled through the press, who frankly never do understand matters military anyway, white can sometimes seem black.

I am a bit concerned, however, at the public impression this is making and whether the Iraqi government is aware of it. To release men who have done what these men have demands a quid pro quo that is considerably more than a promise to negotiate. It had better by God be worth it because one of those quids is American blood.

17 posted on 12/30/2006 9:18:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
They should have just disappeared. A week or two playing water sports with the CIA and we would have extracted everything they ever hoped to know.
18 posted on 12/30/2006 9:24:16 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oldenuff2no; Marine_Uncle
Yes, and they didn't, largely because we turned them over to the Iraqis who found a more pressing purpose for them than that. It could be a lot of things. There are multiple parties with interests here, and the Iraqi government is attempting to solidify its support with domestic factions who may have given guarantees in return for the freedom of these operatives. Whether these are to be trusted is something I couldn't even guess at.

The Iranians, however this turns out, badly need to be slapped down for it and I'm afraid that they won't be. My personal preference would be for "accidents" to start happening to senior members of the Revolutionary Guard, but then they already are... Our work? Ahmadinejad's? Both? Welcome to the Middle East.

19 posted on 12/30/2006 9:36:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
Your two replies ring true in my ears. I will not re-iterate your varied possible explainations. They all are quite reasonable.
But sure as you indicate, this is no time to give any allowance to any Iranian operatives caught in Iraq. The Iraqi are sending mixed signals at best, unless again the key man has specific instructions to return to his masters.
20 posted on 12/30/2006 9:50:32 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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