[Raycpa]

Why exclude Mexico?

Countries already having totalization agreements with the U.S.

• The United States currently has Social Security agreements with Canada, Chile, South Korea, Australia and most of Western Europe.

  Country	Effective Date	Country	Effective Date
  Italy	November 1, 1978	Portugal	August 1, 1989
  Germany	December 1, 1979	Netherlands	November 1, 1990
  Switzerland	November 1, 1980	Austria	November 1, 1991
  Belgium	July 1, 1984	Finland	November 1, 1992
  Norway	July 1, 1984	Ireland	September 1, 1993
  Canada	August 1, 1984	Luxembourg	November 1, 1993
  United Kingdom	January 1, 1985	Greece	September 1, 1994
  Sweden	January 1, 1987	South Korea	April 1, 2001
  Spain	April 1, 1988	Chile	December 1, 2001
  France	July 1, 1988	Australia	October 1, 2002

• More detailed information about these totalization agreements can be found at http://www.socialsecurity.gov/international/.

[driftdiver]

"Why exclude Mexico?"

None of those other countries have a history of sending massive numbers of illegal immigrants to the US.

[BW2221]

"Why exclude Mexico?"

I live on the border with Canada (Detroit area). I would estimate there are nearly the same number of U.S. nationals who work in Canada as Canadians who work in the U.S. The same is probably true of countries like Ireland, Portugal, Italy, etc.

How many "undocumented" Irish, Italians or Portuguese work in the U.S.? Most people from those countries bother to follow small details like obtaining green cards, work permits, etc. Our government knows who they are.

On the other hand, there is somewhere between 12 and 20 million undocumented workers in the U.S. (primarily Mexicans).

[television is just wrong]

throw iran in with that. I know some Iranians who are collecting their benes, from their work history in Iran. Never worked a day in the U.S.

[zeugma]

Why exclude Mexico?

Because it  is a third-world kleptocracy and hell-hole that is invading us with millions of its citizens?