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Social Security for illegal aliens
Washington Times ^ | Jan. 04, 2007 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 01/04/2007 9:46:36 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement

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To: Howlin

Gee. There are no Third World countries on that list. Wonder why?


61 posted on 01/05/2007 6:47:20 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: Aria

This guy was involved in HD truck springs-heavy stuff.
Workers comp fraud was a big problem.
The Doctors didn't help, either.
I called on Industrial and HD distributors all over CA.
They all bitched about Workers Comp fraud.


62 posted on 01/05/2007 7:16:36 AM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: Andy'smom; All; grannyheart2000; teawithmisswilliams; WhiteGuy

Some will say, "BUT, but, some illegals have paid Social Security that they haven't collected!"

Some, yes.

Then there is this! According to the US Treasury Dept. Illegal aliens are getting as much as 10 BILLION dollars in refunds (earned income credit) in 2004.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/04/gb.01.html


BECK: This is insanity. You know, I just saw a number -- and tell me if this number is right, if you even have it -- I just saw a number on, in 2004, what we paid illegal aliens in tax refunds, 2004. Do you know this number?

CAMAROTA: Yes, I believe -- the figure I`ve heard is about $10 billion. That`s based on estimates that the Treasury Department has done itself, $10 billion they paid back to illegal aliens.

BECK: That is insane. We`re paying them $10 billion, and we can`t arrest them, we can`t even find them, we don`t even know -- $10 billion? And now we`re giving them Social Security, one that we don`t need another country to sabotage for us. We`re doing it ourselves. The whole thing is going to collapse.

CAMAROTA: Yes, and what`s worse than that is, that the IRS issues them tax I.D. numbers so that they can then file their income tax with their false Social Security numbers so that we can give them their $10 billion back.

BECK: OK, all right. So the last thing here -- let me just role play here for a second. I`m an illegal alien. I have to now go to the government and prove to the government that I have a fake I.D., that I bought a fake Social Security card on the street in the black market, and then the government rewards me for that, right?

CAMAROTA: Yes, in effect, sure. Once you get legal status, then you apply for the credits that you earned while you were an illegal alien. And the way you do that is like you said: You show your false documents. You bring out your bogus tax returns, and so forth.

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http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalfindings.html

Treasury Department Report. The results of our study are also buttressed by an analysis of illegal alien tax returns done by the Inspector General's Office of the Department of Treasury in 2004.35 That study found that 55 percent of illegal aliens who filed income tax returns using tax identification numbers had no federal income tax liability. While higher than the 45 percent estimated in this study, it must be remembered that this figure was only for those who filed tax returns using a tax identification number. These are all individuals who expected refunds, otherwise they would not have gone to the trouble of getting tax identification numbers and filing a return. But like our estimates, the Inspector General's report indicates that roughly half of illegals have no tax liability, reflecting their very low incomes and large number of dependents.
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http://www.ustreas.gov/tigta/congress/congress_03102004.htm

The number of ITINs issued in the last few years has increased dramatically, climbing from 1.1 million in 2001 to 1.5 million in 2002--a one-year increase of about 36 percent. Normally, ITINs would be used to file a Form 1040NR—U.S. Nonresident Alien Income Tax Return. However, many ITINs are used to file Forms 1040, which creates challenges for tax administration. Our analysis of Forms 1040 filed in Tax Year 2001 with ITINs found that approximately 530,000 Forms 1040 were filed with ITINs as the primary number by aliens who resided in the U.S., but who were not authorized to work and, in general, to reside in the U.S.

* These returns reported adjusted gross income of $10.7 billion. After tax deductions and credits, these tax returns reported a total liability of $184 million.
* Over half of the tax returns reported no tax liability, and $522 million in tax refunds were claimed on these returns.


63 posted on 01/05/2007 8:17:06 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: janetgreen
Holy sh1t! You say that here, and you are risking life and limb.

damned gutsy of ya tho. thanks. ;)

64 posted on 01/05/2007 9:04:10 AM PST by softengine ("Conscience is the root of all true courage..")
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To: teawithmisswilliams
How can we stop this travesty?

We're wasting time complaining to the president who signed this insane agreement. This is what he wants to happen.

Scream LOUD to your Senators and Representative to start representing us, the American citizens, instead of Mexico.

65 posted on 01/05/2007 12:18:20 PM PST by janetgreen (NO AMNESTY EVER AGAIN!!)
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To: janetgreen

I do both. El Presidente needs to hear that many of his former supporters see what he's doing.


66 posted on 01/05/2007 12:34:37 PM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

bump


67 posted on 01/06/2007 8:19:26 AM PST by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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To: rpgdfmx

Not caca at all! I applied, by law, every year for residency and it took five years to get a resident's certificate. I still have it. Maybe the rules have changed since then, but them's the facts I had no intention of trying for Mexican citizenship.


68 posted on 01/06/2007 3:34:55 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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