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West haunted by Balkans blunder (2001. article, but great explaining Balkan Blunder)
Jewish World Review ^

Posted on 01/04/2007 5:13:32 PM PST by kronos77

AS the war in Afghanistan goes on, the ghost of interventions past sits in a courtroom in The Hague.

America can drop tons of explosives and send in the Marines to fight Taliban terrorism. But when the Serbs confronted a similar menace, they were demonized and bombed for 78 days, and had a province wrested from them and presented to Osama bin Laden's Balkan brigade.

Slobodan Milosevic has been charged with complicity to commit genocide and crimes against humanity. Before the travesty is over, he will doubtless be convicted of running the rail line to Auschwitz.

The former Yugoslav president is a thug whose brutality played into the terrorists' hands. Even so, the trial of Milosevic before a U.N. tribunal is intended to justify our Balkans blunder and discourage serious consideration of its consequences.

If what happened to Kosovo Albanians and Bosnian Moslems was genocide, what of the treatment of Orthodox Serbs? After NATO's air war, 200,000 were driven from Kosovo. Most who remain cower behind barbed-wire barricades in Mitrovica.

Altogether, 2 million Serbs were expelled from Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo, and 240 of their churches were destroyed. When this happens to anyone else, it's called ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: islamofascism; kla; kosovo; serbia

1 posted on 01/04/2007 5:13:35 PM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

The truth is out(in) there


2 posted on 01/04/2007 5:14:33 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

"America can drop tons of explosives and send in the Marines to fight Taliban terrorism. But when the Serbs confronted a similar menace, they were demonized and bombed for 78 days'

...to the ripe condemnations of many Americans. The US was wrong then and NATO is wrong now.


3 posted on 01/04/2007 5:18:21 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: gcruse

Any guesses what was in Sandy Berger's sox? :-)


4 posted on 01/04/2007 5:41:10 PM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: dgallo51

My guess is that it was documents dealing with events around the time of 'wag the dog' which had hand notations on them that Clinton wanted buried.


5 posted on 01/04/2007 5:43:06 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: gcruse
exactly!

the leftist msm knows it and wants to bury the story
6 posted on 01/04/2007 6:47:16 PM PST by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: kronos77

Clinton again..........


7 posted on 01/04/2007 6:59:19 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: kronos77

Bump!


8 posted on 01/04/2007 7:32:55 PM PST by F-117A (Who is Jamil Hussein?)
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To: kronos77; Bokababe

The author of this article is Don Feder, who is a good man indeed!!!!

And Badnje Vece is fast approaching!!!!


9 posted on 01/04/2007 8:22:54 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: gcruse

That's what they want us to think…I suspect it had something to do with this, but then, I'm only guessing.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?page=article&id=466

"It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable."
--Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983), The Passionate State of Mind, 1954


10 posted on 01/04/2007 8:59:34 PM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: dgallo51

From your link...

"This rapidly developing Eurobeast will soon inflict stinging suffering. Whole cities will be destroyed by nuclear destruction (Dan. 8:24)."

Daniel knew about nukes?


11 posted on 01/04/2007 9:04:25 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: gcruse

They lost me when they got to 'Revelations' :-), but Germany's role in the conflict was a 'revelation' for me:-)

WAR IN THE BALKANS
A fine mess

At the start of the crisis there were two main objectives: to restore substantive autonomy to Kosovo and ensure that the Yugoslav government respected the Kosovars’ political, cultural, religious and linguistic freedoms. The plan at the Rambouillet conference was to achieve these two aims by peaceful means. The Serbs and the Kosovars (including representatives of the Kosovan Liberation Army) had reached a consensus on the two main objectives. The Rambouillet conference ended in failure because of the West’s stubborn insistence (the United States in particular) on a Nato presence in Kosovo to monitor the implementation of the agreements.

By Ignacio Ramonet

Five weeks on from the start of the bombing in Yugoslavia, it is impossible not to be appalled at the extraordinary recklessness with which the Nato countries became involved in this latest Balkan conflict. They entered the war totally unprepared.

At the start of the crisis there were two main objectives: to restore substantive autonomy to Kosovo and ensure that the Yugoslav government respected the Kosovars’ political, cultural, religious and linguistic freedoms. The plan at the Rambouillet conference was to achieve these two aims by peaceful means. The Serbs and the Kosovars (including representatives of the Kosovan Liberation Army) had reached a consensus on the two main objectives and Slobodan Milosevic’s government had specifically agreed to grant Kosovo a large measure of autonomy. After free elections the province would have self-government, its own parliament, president, judicial system and police (1).

So why, when the two sides had agreed on the essentials, did the Rambouillet conference end in failure? There was one reason and one reason alone: the Western powers’ stubborn insistence (the United States in particular) on a Nato presence in Kosovo to monitor the implementation of the agreements. They were well aware that the Belgrade government would object (see article by Paul-Marie de La Gorce) and its all too predictable refusal was seen as a casus belli. There was no suggestion that other intervention forces might be used or, for instance, the United Nations’ "blue berets". The choice was between Nato or war. So war it was.

There is no denying that the Serbian government’s treatment of the ethnic Albanian majority in Kosovo was deplorable. In 1981 in particular the Kosovo Albanians (the only non-Slav and non-Christian group in former Yugoslavia) had protested violently against their status, which they regarded as discriminatory. The removal of that status in 1989 was a provocation. The Kosovar parliament was dissolved, the teaching of the Albanian language banned and over 150,000 Albanian-speakers were sacked from their jobs in the civil service and state-owned companies. Martial law was introduced, giving the Belgrade forces of repression a free hand. In the last ten years they have stepped up their persecution of the Albanians to persuade them to leave the country. Inevitably the Albanians rebelled.

Whereas Ibrahim Rugova’s supporters opted for passive resistance, the KLA militants became increasingly violent in their opposition. In the past two years they have carried out murderous attacks on the forces of law and order and the Serb minority. Such incidents, seized on by the mass media, have given government propagandists an excuse to play on Serbian nationalist sentiments and stir up racist feeling against the Albanians.

Like all Balkan geopolitical issues, the situation was clearly complex and had been going on for years. The search for a compromise was bound to be long and hard. That being so, the Rambouillet conference should have continued for several more weeks, especially since the few thousand OSCE (Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe) observers in Kosovo were to some extent keeping the violence against the Kosovars under control.

The lesson of history is that any ill-timed political changes in this explosive region set off a chain of consequences - as Milosevic’s unilateral removal of Kosovo’s and Vojvodina’s autonomous status in 1989 and the over-hasty recognition of Slovenian and Croatian independence by Germany and the Vatican in 1991 so tragically show. The Nato air offensive has once more made that lesson clear.

excerpt…

http://mondediplo.com/1999/05/01leader

A geostrategy for Eurasia by Zbigniew Brzezinski

http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/9709brzezinski.html


12 posted on 01/04/2007 10:22:58 PM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: kronos77; Bokababe; joan; montyspython; DTA; getoffmylawn; ma bell; Beckwith; ...

I guess the word is out now.....I don't know what this says but I suppose that the situation will start becoming interesting shortly. A basic translation or summary in English would be interesting.

http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=70920_Tgambill_122_431lo.jpg

http://www.uliks.org.yu/sucinfo/conventions/fifteenth/pdf/kosovo_panel_report.pdf


13 posted on 01/04/2007 11:09:46 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

thanks for the ping. please let me know if you get a translation.

That pdf report - how long has that been public information?


14 posted on 01/05/2007 3:22:49 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: dgallo51

Seems more likely that the Saudis told Clinton and the European leaders "Stop the war against Muslims in Europe, or face an oil cutoff!"


15 posted on 01/05/2007 3:34:45 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: Honorary Serb

True.
I cant wait for Christmass eve!


16 posted on 01/05/2007 4:10:31 AM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Bokababe; joan; montyspython; DTA; getoffmylawn; ma bell; Beckwith; ...

I have received a partial translation of the article and it is out of whack....in other words they have sensationalized the info that provided by light years.

I"m getting a full translation and will correct the "BS" and lies that it has presented. This could work to a benefit, by exposing the writer as being a sensationalist and at the same time, getting the truth out as this will be a buzz.......there are always a positive in a negative, sometimes one needs a magnifying glass.........The negative also can be cataloged as experience and a good teacher......


17 posted on 01/05/2007 4:46:08 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: dgallo51
Your tagline has reminded me of something. Rwanda, Bosnia and Kosovo are the parts of the same script.

When Canadian judge started looking into rock solid evidence of direct involvement of BJ's administration into Rwanda events, she was thrown out from the Kangaroo court and sent back home to Canada. She was not suposed to look into that direction.

However, the irrefutable evidence is everywhere. When trained eye looks through the media smokescreen about Rwanda genocide, it is obvious: the involvement of CIA to kickstart the killing by shooting down French airplane, incursion of MPRI-trained Tutsi rebels from Uganda, stopping the intervention of African states, seeting up of Tutsi regime in Rwanda and military asstance in mass murder of 200,000 plus Hutus in Congo after Tutsis took over,

Today, Rwanda is leading exporter of Coltan, although none is mined in Rwanda. That's the only thing that counts.

Because of diversionary lie about "genocide in baaznia" no one noticed what really happened in Great Lake region in Africa.Gorillas are in the mist, but fools are in media smokescreen.

18 posted on 01/05/2007 11:07:16 AM PST by DTA (Mr. President., Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: DTA

It's high time for a script rewrite.


19 posted on 01/05/2007 11:10:15 AM PST by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: dgallo51
It's the great , brilliant , esteemed , ________ ( fill in blank ) Don Feder

The guy should be President with Julia "very nice Jewish girl" Gorin as VP

20 posted on 01/05/2007 10:43:22 PM PST by infidel_pride
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To: dgallo51
"There is no denying that the Serbian government’s treatment of the ethnic Albanian majority in Kosovo was deplorable. In 1981 in particular the Kosovo Albanians (the only non-Slav and non-Christian group in former Yugoslavia) had protested violently against their status, which they regarded as discriminatory. The removal of that status in 1989 was a provocation. The Kosovar parliament was dissolved, the teaching of the Albanian language banned and over 150,000 Albanian-speakers were sacked from their jobs in the civil service and state-owned companies. Martial law was introduced, giving the Belgrade forces of repression a free hand. In the last ten years they have stepped up their persecution of the Albanians to persuade them to leave the country"

There are so many mistakes it's difficult to know where to start . The Kosovo Albanians could be educated in their own language , they could use their language in court . They weren't dismissed from their jobs , they were ordered to quit by the KLA They chose to have their kids educated outside the state system and then cried "Apartheid" .

Those Kosovo Albanians ( largely Catholic ) who stayed loyal to Belgrade sent their kids to school where they were educated in Albanian , their parents had state jobs , etc .

At Rambouillet the Serb side was represented by ethnic Turks , Ethnic Albanians ( four if I remember correctly ) Roma , Gorani , Ethnic Macedonian , etc .

Representing the Kosovo Albanians were........you guessed it ........only Kosovo Albanians .

Yet it was the Serbs who were labelled "racists"

21 posted on 01/05/2007 10:53:22 PM PST by infidel_pride
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To: Fred Nerks

I have a translation and will file a complaint. I can't say more than that here, but, it suffices to say that the article is out of whack and in many cases took my info out of context in a massive way. So, just another learning experience.

The numbers they are using, IMO are exaggerated and the quotes are interlaced with their own opinions, sources, etc.....to make it look like mine, to protect their own sources or insert sensationaism...plus they misstated my role in Kosovo by light years.


22 posted on 01/06/2007 12:23:39 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

sounds like it never ends...sorry to hear that.


23 posted on 01/06/2007 1:23:38 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: Fred Nerks

oh, not a problem, it can be used as an advantage. there will be many more to come. It's good practice. It is also to be expected.


24 posted on 01/06/2007 4:30:48 AM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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