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"Of course, movies and songs don't make people kill people, but they can influence the way people think and live.

But ultimately, if we want to see fewer black athletes as victims of violence, African-Americans must stop worshiping at the altar of their own demise."

1 posted on 01/06/2007 5:47:29 AM PST by indcons
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Black men constantly receive the message that they can't make it in life through using legitimate means, and the only way they gain society's respect is through the street game.

Well maybe black people should smarten up and stop sending that message to themselves. Are you listening Jesse? Al?

2 posted on 01/06/2007 5:49:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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Let's start with dropping the African part. These are Americans killing each other.


3 posted on 01/06/2007 5:50:18 AM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock-DDG 61)
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All I could think of while reading this article was O. J. Simpson.

O.J. Simpson looks back into the courtroom gallery during his 2001 'road rage' trial in Miami. A judge has frozen the money Simpson was paid for his aborted book and interview deal following a lawsuit by the father of murder victim Ron Goldman, a lawyer in the case said on Thursday. REUTERS/POOL/Wilfredo Lee

4 posted on 01/06/2007 5:52:05 AM PST by AmericanMade1776 (Democrats don't have a plan)
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Darwin at work...


5 posted on 01/06/2007 5:53:48 AM PST by x_plus_one (Allah has no son.)
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Very good article. A huge part of the problem in the black community is black culture. It glorifies violence while de-emphasizing the importance of education. Many in America are too PC to talk about it but black culture must be radically overhauled if blacks are to ever do well in the US. At this point it is much more of a barrier to success than the legacy of slavery or segregation.


7 posted on 01/06/2007 6:05:27 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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The poverty pimp black leaders (Jesse, Al, et al) are too busy blaming and shaking down whitey to try to fix their real problems.


8 posted on 01/06/2007 6:05:33 AM PST by Reagan is King (Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it)
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"all of the athletes are black."

Well, since almost three-fourths of NFL players are black, the odds are in their favor.

9 posted on 01/06/2007 6:07:53 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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You can thank the NEA and 60 years of Democrat destruction of the Black Family.

Pray for W and Our Troops


10 posted on 01/06/2007 6:11:25 AM PST by bray (Redeploy to Iran)
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American Gangster

I caught the second half of Episode 5 The Smith Brothers the other night. It was interesting.

13 posted on 01/06/2007 6:12:37 AM PST by csvset
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My ex taught inner-city black students for years (with required home visits) and there are several common threads that persist: 1) most parent(s) do not support or see the value of education (plenty of big screen TV's but not one magazine or book), 2) they consistently see themselves as victims (an idea that is continually reinforced by the likes of Jesse and Al), and 3) they perceive the gov't as the solution to everything, not their own actions. Couple these attitudes with the fact that 80% of black families are single-parent homes, and you start to see a pattern of "non-responsibility" emerging.
14 posted on 01/06/2007 6:13:02 AM PST by econjack
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Either they grew up without fathers, or had fathers that were bad fathers. The street raises fatherless kids.


15 posted on 01/06/2007 6:13:32 AM PST by Jason_b
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Jealously & greed, plain and simple. I've seen Packers players get into scuffles at the bars here from other blacks.


16 posted on 01/06/2007 6:15:08 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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Let's see if the poverty pimps attack Mr Hill like they did Bill Cosby.


18 posted on 01/06/2007 6:16:22 AM PST by Skip Ripley
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"This isn't to say black people invented violence or have a penchant for it."

Coulda fooled me.


19 posted on 01/06/2007 6:17:18 AM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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"While America is generally a violent place"

Take any crime statistic -- murder, robbery, rape, # of arrests, # of prisoners -- and subtract the minority contribution to those statistics, and we're no worse than any other country.

There are more blacks in prison than in college. Three-fourths of all prisoners are minorities. I'm getting tired of this generalized "America" bashing.

21 posted on 01/06/2007 6:18:46 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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I thought maybe Rush Limbaugh wrote this before ESPN fired him for Talking politics on a Sportschannel


25 posted on 01/06/2007 6:25:47 AM PST by ballplayer
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Why do black athletes often seem to find themselves either holding a gun or staring down the barrel of one?

There are consequences for stupidity.

Pretending to be some bad-assed gangbanger will probably get you killed.

Why don't these jackasses just play football?

28 posted on 01/06/2007 6:26:47 AM PST by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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Of course, movies and songs don't make people kill people, but they can influence the way people think and live.

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Art imitates life. The music, movies, posters, books and magazines glorifying the "hip hop" lifestyle are describing an aspect of life that exists independent of that description. This is fact, not fantasy. if we want to see fewer black athletes as victims of violence, the victims and perpetrators must make decisions that will result in different outcomes. To accomplish this, all people must worship at the alter of their Lord and Savior, not at the alter of the Almighty dollar.


30 posted on 01/06/2007 6:27:35 AM PST by photodawg
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What a disturbing and sad cycle we have going now. An increasingly large number of black super-star athletes identify with (if not adopt) the hip-hop gangsta image.

More sadly the role model for the average black youth is the hip-hop gangsta look, walk, personna.... and the sports paraphernalia of their 'gangsta hero sports star'.

How about some other role images to aspire to.... step up black leaders.

32 posted on 01/06/2007 6:30:23 AM PST by nctexan
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Money quote:

"Of course, movies and songs don't make people kill people, but they can influence the way people think and live. But ultimately, if we want to see fewer black athletes as victims of violence, African-Americans must stop worshiping at the altar of their own demise."

I agree, too much blame is being put on the movies and popular culture for this problem. Pop culture has glorified the Mafia through it's movies and TV shows, yet everyday people of Italian descent are no more prone to violence than any other ethnic group.

42 posted on 01/06/2007 6:50:01 AM PST by Sir_Humphrey (NJ's former Governor only wanted to screw guys. The current Governor wants to screw everybody)
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