Posted on 01/06/2007 8:31:55 AM PST by joanie-f
I am not 'equating' our government with terrorists. I am considering the relative evil of those who openly threaten to destroy us with the (what I see as at least equally) evil of those who have it within their power to dramatically reduce that possibility, but instead choose to look the other way.
As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans
I never said the 'poor Mexicans' are the terrorists. Please re-read. But neither can I in any way agree with your assertion that 'both sides' are benefitting from this blatantly criminal, parasitic relationship.
As for your assertion that most of the illegals mean us no harm, I cannot even begin to respond to that. In addition to sucking the lifeblood out of the economies in the southwestern states, causing a dramatic increase in the crime rates, and placing American citizens in physical danger, are you not aware of the agendas of organizations such as La Raza (to which the majority of illegals may not subscribe, but whose power is nonetheless growing daily)?
Let me amend my statement: It is already too late to assume that the system will fix itself. The check and balances are broken or ignored.
Unless "We the People" act to correct things, there will be no correction.
With illegal aliens invading, murdering, raping, kidnapping our citizens and destroying our social and economic well-being, our government is complacent in stopping it. They are enabling our destructor's to do their bloody best to bring us, as a nation to our knees. If you don't have a problem with that, I respectfully suggest that you look inward to find out why it doesn't bother you.
How long before a nuke goes off in a major American city? The rop phrase is bs and anyone with half a brain cell knows this, yet, OUR government continues to toss that worn out lie at us whenever possible.
You think only Mexicans are flooding across our border? The link below is a story I have read many times. Most people won't read it because it requires more time than the average dump in the toilet.(pardon my crudeness) Give it a read, see what you think.
Bears repeating ... along with the pledge they have betrayed.
Very well:
U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section one:The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.
Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
You are very welcome.
I thnk so too.
We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
--Thomas Borge, Nicaraguan Interior Minister, as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985
OK....life can be so simple if applied correctly. Write your state reps demanding that everything be shut down in Washington until the board problems are fixed to the approval of all of us. Include in this....their pay and no pay raises will be allocated until the boarder is shut down. I'm not preaching the idea of taking over our government, but I am saying that our people can shut them down if we really want to.
I thnk so too.
Far-called, our navies melt away;
On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet.
Lest we forget - lest we forget!
Rudyard Kipling, Recessional, 1897.
As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans. These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm.
We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
--Thomas Borge, Nicaraguan Interior Minister, as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985
And where is this Borge today...its been 22 years since he made that ridiculous statement. Do you really want to declare Mexico an enemy? Haven't we already enough of those? Goodness please take a course in enemy identification!
While that's true for most Mexicans, it doesn't apply to all. And even many of those who are here to do what you say are not at all friendly to Americans or to our way of life. This is truly a problem that has been exacerbated by the pols in Washington.
Answer me this. You need to work for 40 quarters (10 years) to qualify for Social Security benefits. How does it make you feel to know that the illegals you're talking about only need to work for 6 quarters to earn those same benefits?
I just read 'Requiem' in its entirety. That someone so far removed, by geographic distance and time, from our current desperate situation could manage to describe it so well is evidence, I guess, of the 'eternal-ness' of the degradation of the human condition. Kind of the same way de Tocqueville issued similar warnings in 'Democracy in America' the mid-nineteenth century, so many of which we are failing to heed.
We've already declared their drug cartels an enemy. Have you read about the National Guard troops who were run out of their post on the border this week?
Unfortunately, there comes a time when we must oppose the laws that shackle us and try to prevent us from doing what's right. The patriots of the Revolutionary War knew that when tey opposed the British and eventually won freedom for America. Those who supported the revolution but did not defend themselves, paid a dear price. We have over 20,000 gun laws on the books in this country today, and not a single one will prevent the next crime of murder, robbery or rape. In the 60's, AG Robert Kennedy stated that civil disobediance was acceptable if it was the only way to fight injustice.
Our choices are increasingly growing smaller for ways to defend our nation and protect it from those whose sole focus is themself and their power. The laws that restrain us from doing what is right, are written solely for us - NOT those who will defy them for their own ends. We have choices, albeit choices that, for many of us, stimulate a moral internal battle between obeying the law and defending America from its betrayers.
While I appreciate the intent behind your suggestion, I don't understand how you envision us accomplishing what you envision.
Our demands that the government be shut down will be ignored (just like our demands that the border be sealed).
Not only that, but you can't cause a sufficient number of citizens to express outrage when only a small majority of them know, or care, about what's going on at the border. The combination of unaccountability (on the part of our elected 'representatives') and apathy (on ours) doesn't make a very strong case for the success of a shut down.
You're simplifying the problem too much, HJ. Where are your charts (with figures made up out of whole cloth), pleas for tolerance, and phony claims that what seems irrational now will eventually work out for the best in the long run? < /sarc >
A politician you'll never be (possibly the best compliment you've been offered in recent memory? :)
We have choices, albeit choices that, for many of us, stimulate a moral internal battle between obeying the law and defending America from its betrayers.
Well, with $1.2 billion , you can build a lot of fence.
How many feet of fence have been built?
None?
Well you can start crowing about that money being for fencing when it is actually spent on some.
I couldn't have said it better (and wouldn't even try). :-)
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