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Supreme Court Urged to End “Special Privileges” for Atheist Activists
Stop The ACLU ^ | 6-Jan-07 | John Stephenson

Posted on 01/06/2007 2:18:16 PM PST by Jay777

Tired of all the frivolous Establishment Clause lawsuits being filed over one individual being offended by a religious symbol without ever having to show any merit or proof of actual injury? Well the ACLJ are hoping to stop that special privilege so often abused church-state separation advocates.

There are people who, just because they pay taxes, file suit challenging federal government actions that supposedly give unconstitutional support to religion. In no other area of the law does the Court allow this kind of legal standing to bring challenges. For years, atheists and others who are antagonistic to religion and who want to remove every religious reference from American public life, have had a special privilege in federal court. Unlike everyone else, church-state separation advocates have not had to show that a law or government activity actually injured them in any way before they could bring a challenge in federal court. All they had to do was show that they were taxpayers. In essence, separationists have had a free reign to bring Establishment Clause lawsuits throughout the country just because they were “taxpayers.” Simply put, that’s unfair. No other citizen can just sue because they pay taxes. It should be the same in the religion cases, and the Supreme Court has an opportunity to say “no” to these plaintiffs once and for all.

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1 posted on 01/06/2007 2:18:19 PM PST by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; EdReform; Nick Danger; ...
PING!
2 posted on 01/06/2007 2:20:15 PM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

About time.


3 posted on 01/06/2007 2:22:13 PM PST by Aeronaut (Hebrews 13:4)
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To: Jay777
Next assignment is to get rid of the attorney fees for the ACLU in these cases.

If the All Commie Litigation Union didn't make millions shilling for plaintiffs and then filing lawsuits, these suits would dry up instantly.

4 posted on 01/06/2007 2:27:06 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

True. Also, they should at least have to show that they break out in a rash or something.


5 posted on 01/06/2007 2:29:00 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt
Nah. Too easy to fake.

I want to see bills from psychiatrists - who could then be put on the stand to admit that their clients are nuts, but it's not due to the manger scene . . . .

6 posted on 01/06/2007 2:32:45 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Jay777
I'm wondering if maybe we shouldn't give the Atheists "injuries" they can point to ~ nothing like a good thrashing, or being ridden on a rail, or a little tar and feather to focus the mind.

Not that I'd do that, but why should they be allowed to go to court without injury.

7 posted on 01/06/2007 2:36:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I'm trying to find out...if anyone might be able to help...do free speech cases have to prove actual injury to be heard? Are free speech cases held to the same standard when it comes to standing as Establishment Clause cases?


8 posted on 01/06/2007 2:44:38 PM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: ClaireSolt
I think gov't promotion of Gorebal Warning is the establishment of a religion and is expressly forbidden by the Constitution.
9 posted on 01/06/2007 2:59:57 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Jay777

I'd just be happy for someone to point out this "wall of separation between Church and State" thing. I've never actually found it in the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, or Bill of Rights...


10 posted on 01/06/2007 3:20:06 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Jay777

The fact that they have been given standing in the past makes them a defacto religion. Therefore the purge of all things religious from the public square is definitely an establishment clause violation, placing the gubermint in the position of promoting a state religion - Atheism.


11 posted on 01/06/2007 3:28:52 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Saddam is Dead! Bush's Fault. [Pray for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub.])
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To: AnAmericanMother
Next assignment is to get rid of the attorney fees for the ACLU in these cases.

That would have to be done by statute. Attorney fees are awarded to the "prevailing party" in civil rights actions under federal law. The rationale was to give poor "victims" the ability to bring claims against abusive governmental entities. The law should be amended to eliminate attorney fees in "establishment clause" cases only.

12 posted on 01/06/2007 4:53:33 PM PST by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: Clump
That's exactly what I had in mind.

Or maybe require that the plaintiff "victim" show actual harm in order to get attorney fees . . . something along the lines of the old Georgia "impact rule".

13 posted on 01/06/2007 5:01:33 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
I would be thrilled to see the SCOTUS require an Article III "case or controversy" with a personalized injury for there to be standing in "establishment clause" cases. That would be even better than a case upholding a 5 ton Ten Commandment display on a courthouse lawn (even though I would agree with such a ruling). The ACLU would have to find a new pet issue to whine about.
14 posted on 01/06/2007 9:57:57 PM PST by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: All

I urge everyone to visit the aclj.org frequently - lots of great info there.

I have called Jay Seculo's radio show several times, and get some good insight.


15 posted on 01/06/2007 10:24:57 PM PST by Sun (*MERRY CHRISTMAS!* And during this beautiful season, let's all pray for good to win over evil soon!)
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