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Announcing the Haditha Marines Defense Fund
DefendOurMarines ^ | January 6, 2006 | David Allender

Posted on 01/06/2007 2:31:13 PM PST by RedRover

There is now a Defense Fund established for the Haditha Marines. To aid the civilian defense of the eight accused, send donations to:

Marine Iraq Legal Defense Fund, Inc.
c/o Judge Victor Ramirez
P.O. Box 1255
Solana Beach, CA 92075

Your donation can be earmarked to one of the accused or to all of the Haditha Marines who stand trial. Write your preference on the memo line of the check.


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Freeper lilycicero and I have spoken to the lawyers who run the fund and can supply their names and phone numbers to anyone who wants additional information. You can find out more about Judge Victor Ramirez (the fund's principle administrator) at the link. This is the same group who raised money for the "Pendleton 8".

Interested Freepers can help publicize this fund. Obviously, it's a fund in name only at the moment. We need to get the word out, particularly within the Marines' local communities, that the fund exists. We will use this thread on an ongoing basis for provide information and ways that people can get involved. Ideas are welcome.

Also, Southern California Freepers please take note! The fund administrators will have a meeting in Carlsbad, California in the evening of January, 9th. I was invited to attend, but cannot. If anyone could be on hand to get directly involved, please let me know. The administrators of the Defense Fund only want to facilitate a fair trial.

Finally, I'm in this until the end: for the bitter or sweet. There's a strong possibility that one of the eight accused could cop a plea. That won't change my dedication to this cause.

The way I see it is this. The media, politicians, and the government lawyers are all demanding convictions to "send a message". The media hates the war. The Rats hate President Bush. Military lawyers want greater control over men in combat. The eight accused are caught up in these power games and have precious little on their side. I hope you'll consider helping.

1 posted on 01/06/2007 2:31:14 PM PST by RedRover
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To: the mo; Tuscaloosa Goldfinch; fishergirl; TNdandelion; slipper; Eagles6; jazusamo; smoothsailing; ..

Pinging you to this development.


2 posted on 01/06/2007 2:34:00 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

It's beautiful...thanks for your work!


3 posted on 01/06/2007 2:36:44 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: lilycicero

You have been busy...I see it is on the "Defend" page.
Let me go get my pen!


4 posted on 01/06/2007 2:45:02 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: RedRover

Advertising....

http://www.misterpolitics.com/blog.asp?entry=491


5 posted on 01/06/2007 2:46:04 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: pinkpanther111

I'm glad you're a girl because I want to kiss you! Great stuff, pink!


6 posted on 01/06/2007 2:50:32 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

#4 post to you.


7 posted on 01/06/2007 2:52:33 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: RedRover

LOL, Hopefully that helps!


8 posted on 01/06/2007 2:53:52 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: RedRover

Finally, I'm in this until the end: for the bitter or sweet

In case you couldn't tell...I'm in.


9 posted on 01/06/2007 2:58:58 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: All

Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, 26, of Meriden, Connecticut

10 posted on 01/06/2007 3:01:29 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: All

Michael SAvage has been raising money and defending them for months, but then many freepers hate Michael Savage.


11 posted on 01/06/2007 3:02:19 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek (When you take things in backwards, everything comes out backwards.---Savage)
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To: RedRover

Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt on the streets of Fallujah, Iraq.

12 posted on 01/06/2007 3:04:11 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: Kewlhand`tek

Not me. I love anybody who speaks out for the Marines. And you're right about Savage, of course. He helped raise a good deal of money for the Pendleton 8. I hope he or someone else will come onboard for the Haditha Marines.


13 posted on 01/06/2007 3:06:57 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Great job, Red. Thanks for your hard work.


14 posted on 01/06/2007 3:09:15 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: RedRover

Corporal (now Sergeant) Sanick De la Cruz, 24, of Chicago, Illinois

15 posted on 01/06/2007 3:10:17 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: jazusamo; lilycicero
Pleasure, jaz. And lily was tireless at working the phones and e-mail.
16 posted on 01/06/2007 3:15:28 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Lance Corporal Stephen Tatum, 25, of Edmund, Oklahoma

17 posted on 01/06/2007 3:17:45 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey Chessani

18 posted on 01/06/2007 3:19:23 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Will do.


19 posted on 01/06/2007 3:21:03 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: RedRover

George Terrazas, 15, and Andy Terrazas, 14, flank a picture of big brother Miguel (at center of the large photo), killed in Haditha by terrorists. Both young men say they plan to enlist in the Marines.

20 posted on 01/06/2007 3:23:24 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Pleasure, jaz. And lily was tireless at working the phones and e-mail

Whatever! I am in my happy place. :)


21 posted on 01/06/2007 3:24:30 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: lilycicero

Thank you for all your hard work also, Lily. It is appreciated.


22 posted on 01/06/2007 3:24:37 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: RedRover

Love this! Thanks for posting it.


23 posted on 01/06/2007 3:26:22 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for welcoming me and I like your homepage..:)


24 posted on 01/06/2007 3:27:00 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: RedRover; euphoriadev

Thought you might be interested!


25 posted on 01/06/2007 3:39:51 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: Eagles6
Thanks, Eagles! There was a blast of negative publicity today from the legal weenies and more "anonymous DOD sources". Seems to me that someone needs to speak up for the defense.

The PTB are doing everything to get this case wrapped up before it goes to court. The pressure on the eight for a plea bargain must be enormous.

26 posted on 01/06/2007 3:57:15 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: pinkpanther111
Related thread: UPDATES ON THE PENDLETON 8:: LIVE RADIO TONIGHT
27 posted on 01/06/2007 4:01:29 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover

Thanks got it.


28 posted on 01/06/2007 4:06:44 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: pinkpanther111; jazusamo; lilycicero
Jaz and Pink--Lily is considering putting together a charity run out where is she in the Sunflower State. I think that'd be a great way to raise some money and maybe get some local publicity too.
29 posted on 01/06/2007 4:13:40 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: RedRover; lilycicero; jazusamo

Lily! thats a great idea!


30 posted on 01/06/2007 4:41:57 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover; lilycicero; jazusamo

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-01-06-haditha-comments_x.htm?csp=34

the stories coming out aren't good, here is a sample.


31 posted on 01/06/2007 4:46:54 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: pinkpanther111

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2775693&page=1

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2775757&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

http://pettifog.us/2007/01/06/new-details-emerge-in-iraq-slayings-case/


32 posted on 01/06/2007 4:52:52 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: RedRover
"Your donation can be earmarked to one of the accused or to all of the Haditha Marines who stand trial. Write your preference on the memo line of the check."
Thanks for the guidance as how one can contribute.
33 posted on 01/06/2007 5:32:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: pinkpanther111

A fun run would be a great fund raiser. I have to test the waters of area support and get the "how to". Any other suggestions?


34 posted on 01/06/2007 6:05:34 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: lilycicero

Right now I am working the computer to see if I can get the announcement posted in as many Military settings as possible. (Blackfive and some others).

I am not sure what I can do here like a run, I am in da boonies... and its winter here... Maybe something at church...(still thinking..)


35 posted on 01/06/2007 6:08:40 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: RedRover; lilycicero

Thank you both for your work on this. Will get my checkbook out to donate.


36 posted on 01/06/2007 7:13:49 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: pinkpanther111

They should go after the "leakers" in this case. It is not right that people are giving unauthorized information out.


37 posted on 01/06/2007 7:20:02 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: pinkpanther111; jazusamo; lilycicero
Feels to me like a full court press is going on. Like some people are eager to wrap this thing up before it goes to trial.

As said above, I'm expecting we'll soon hear that someone will soon cop a plea. I believe the first will be Dela Cruz based on all the details we're seeing today in the media.

At the moment, there's a little public attention in favor of the Marines. Wait and see how that crumbles when one of the Marines cops a plea. I'm trying to prepare for that. Things are going to get a lot tougher.

38 posted on 01/06/2007 7:28:45 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: Marmolade

Yes, they should! What I can't figure out is why they feel the need to leak at all? What is it that they hope to accomplish?


39 posted on 01/06/2007 7:30:56 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: RedRover

You may be right Red.

Still I don't understand why they are leaking the information they are. I guess I am not sneaky enough!


40 posted on 01/06/2007 7:38:01 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: RedRover; pinkpanther111

Thanks, Red. I fear you may be right.

Don't let the leaks get to you, panther, there's been many since Murtha's despicable performance.


41 posted on 01/06/2007 7:49:43 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: pinkpanther111

I can't figure out why these people/organizations feel the need to leak anything regarding this war. Where is the integrity of these people?


42 posted on 01/06/2007 7:59:13 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: jazusamo

Jaz, Thanks, I am back to working those emails now. :)

Ya you guys have been pounding the pavement here longer than I, guess I am gonna have to get used to this. Looks like its gonna be a long haul.


43 posted on 01/06/2007 8:16:31 PM PST by pinkpanther111
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To: jazusamo

I think there are leaks because the leakers believe it desensitizes the public and sells the "killer" image that needs to be sold in order to convict our heroes. Later, when the story is put into the context of the true and complete story, the damage is already done. Most MSM people hate our military so much they jump all over the leaks and revel in the story they are helping to create. It is a bunch of crap, most people know that this is war and our marines aren't criminals. They are doing their job, period. Judge Ramirez has a heart for our marines. I'm going to contribute. These marines have laid their lives on the line for me, its the LEAST I can do.


44 posted on 01/06/2007 8:18:03 PM PST by 444Flyer (Last of the dying breeds unite.)
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To: RedRover

God bless George and Andy Terrazas.


45 posted on 01/06/2007 8:24:05 PM PST by 444Flyer (Last of the dying breeds unite.)
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To: jazusamo; lilycicero
Thanks, Red. I fear you may be right.

When I was talking to a defense fund lawyer, he said their whole effort for the Pendleton 8 pretty much collapsed when Jodka copped a plea. Lily was told the same thing. If a Marine cops a plea in this case, it's better if it doesn't come as a tremendous shock.

46 posted on 01/06/2007 8:31:08 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: 444Flyer

Thanks, Flyer. There's a lot of truth in what you say and these Marines deserve our support to help them get the defense they deserve.

They did lay their lives on the line for us and we have to back them now.


47 posted on 01/06/2007 8:36:37 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: RedRover

Marine officials have accused the troops of failing to identify their targets before using grenades and guns to kill 14 unarmed people in the houses, including several young children in their pajamas, in a span of about 10 minutes, according to the documents.


Pretend that is italics

I will come back and attempt to paste from post 580 when they stated it took 3 hrs


48 posted on 01/06/2007 8:42:26 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: RedRover

December 30, 2006

A unit of Camp Pendleton Marines used automatic weapons, a pistol and a grenade to kill 24 civilians over three hours, then tried to tie all the deaths to combat action.

Pretend you see italics again for my cut and paste...

Now why the big time change?


49 posted on 01/06/2007 8:45:20 PM PST by lilycicero (They are heroes!)
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To: jazusamo

I feel so little for so much on their part.


50 posted on 01/06/2007 8:46:56 PM PST by 444Flyer (How can you stab in the back a man who would take a bullet for you?)
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