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Diamonds Are No Longer A Girl's Best Friend
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-7-2006 | Chris Hastings - Stephanie Plentl - Beth Jones

Posted on 01/06/2007 7:44:37 PM PST by blam

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To: spectre
That IS the point; you really can't tell! I read an article about that, a few months back, and it stated that there really was only the sellers' word.

OTOH, why aren't Russian diamonds considered to be "blood diamonds" too? The stinking Commies had blood dripping from their collective hands for generations.

21 posted on 01/06/2007 8:11:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: blam

As always, Hollywood is in the vanguard of what's most important: Feeling good about ourselves.


22 posted on 01/06/2007 8:12:43 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: blam

Fake diamonds make me just as happy,
and yes,
real diamons aren't rare at all,
not even a little bit...

Real alexandrite however, IS rare....
same with real padparadsha saphires,
pariba tourmaline, some corals,rainbow black pearls etc.....
Even an electric blue columbina zircon is more valuable in the right size.

Go for the stuff that appreciates in value every year!


23 posted on 01/06/2007 8:13:42 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: socal_parrot
Nice anniversary present, but don't expect the price of diamonds to fall because of this silliness.
24 posted on 01/06/2007 8:14:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Global2010

Good for you. I like your attitude!


25 posted on 01/06/2007 8:15:31 PM PST by Hildy (Words are mere bubbles of water...but deeds are drops of gold.)
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To: blam
It won't be long being a "p.c. celebrity" is really gonna suck.

They can't wear diamonds. They can't wear fur. They can't be seen riding in an SUV, have to squeeze into a Prius. They can't eat meat. And with the Dems back in power, are gonna be taxed to death for the privilege of being p.c. celebrities.

Life is good.

26 posted on 01/06/2007 8:16:25 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: blam
Since when does a Hollywood movie prove anything? The whole thing is fiction.

DeBeers and the Russians were the world's main suppliers of jewelry diamonds, and they deliberately kept the price up. When wars broke out in some diamond-producing areas, the two oligopolists feared a crack in their oligopoly, undercutting their prices.

In a stroke of PR genius, they coined the term "blood diamonds." They could shut off the competition if they got the "good people" to spread their propaganda that "blood diamonds" paid for war. With this movie, it seems to have worked.

27 posted on 01/06/2007 8:17:23 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: groanup

The worlds supplies of cut diamonds are controlled to keep prices high, there is no shortage of diamonds and in actuality would be affordable as fine cut crystal if the hoarded amounts were let out on the market.

If anyone wanted a gemstone of value consider the colored stones like rubies and sapphires, those are limited and do have realistic value, even amber is worth its weight in value.

Diamonds are overhyped just like a Rolex watch.


28 posted on 01/06/2007 8:21:04 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: najida
Real alexandrite isn't all that "rare" at all. It used to be sold quite cheaply, 40 years ago. Lots of it is still floating around.
29 posted on 01/06/2007 8:23:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Not flawless color change alexandrite,
right now,
it's 8 grand a carat....and finding anything over a carat is
very rare.


30 posted on 01/06/2007 8:26:14 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: spectre; blam; nopardons
They all pass thru Amsterdam or Brussels..

Not all of 'em.

www.gemesis.com

www.apollodiamond.com

31 posted on 01/06/2007 8:27:36 PM PST by uglybiker (A bunch of radical Unitarians left a flaming question mark on my lawn!)
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To: blam

Anything that screws deBeers is a good thing IMO.


32 posted on 01/06/2007 8:28:37 PM PST by zeugma (If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.)
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To: spectre
Brussels was the biggest conduit of conflict diamomds. One of the doc channels had a two hour "Blood Diamonds" show on a week or three ago.

All the conflict diamonds invariably come from former European colonies that were left with the basis for a fairly decent society. Most became corrupt basket cases. One country, Sierra Leone, that was able to beat back the sadistic terrorists, RUF, iirc, made the mistake of abandoning a military dictatorship too soon, and electing some quack UN type. The RUF immediately went on the offensive, and resumed killing, raping, maiming, and enslaving people. That's not to mention the absolute corruption of adolescents who probably will never be able to be integrated into any civilization.

Anyway, back to Brussels. I think it was Liberia that was doing about $10M a year in diamonds, and with all the conflicts, it shot up into several billion, since Liberia was the laundering operation for hiding the true source of "blood diamonds". All those old trading and smuggling trails from years gone by. Wink-wink, nudge-nudge.

33 posted on 01/06/2007 8:29:57 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: najida

YIKES...that's just crazy! About 40 years ago, you could buy a color changing, flawless, 2 carat stone, set in silver, for less than $50!


34 posted on 01/06/2007 8:32:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: uglybiker

Your first link doesn't work. Can you repost it?


35 posted on 01/06/2007 8:33:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JoeFromSidney
"In a stroke of PR genius, they coined the term "blood diamonds." They could shut off the competition if they got the "good people" to spread their propaganda that "blood diamonds" paid for war. With this movie, it seems to have worked."

Joe, you're a genius.

I told my son the same thing when he was visiting for Christmas.

36 posted on 01/06/2007 8:35:41 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

There seem to be a lot of naysayers belittling the value of diamonds. From an aesthetic point of view diamonds are the most beautiful of gemstones when cut and set properly. Criminal gangs and tribal warfare will exist over natural resources including gem deposits in underdeveloped nations until the end of time. So enjoy your ice.


37 posted on 01/06/2007 8:36:20 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: nopardons

I think you're thinking of another stone....
or maybe the big fakes that have been around forever....I've been a collector for a long time, and I've seen lots of the big fakes (I've got a nice doorknob) but finding a real one of decent size and colorchange is damn near impossible.

Real alexandrite has never been plentiful and it's never been cheap. Seriously, I have a tiny quarter carat that I got years ago and it was appraised as authentic.

Maybe you're thinking of the color change topazs or garnets?


38 posted on 01/06/2007 8:38:09 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: SpaceBar

Not I! I love my jewelry and don't care what the Hollywood idiots say. I also wear fur! :-)


39 posted on 01/06/2007 8:38:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: blam

all the stars and starlets can go back to wearing their red ribbons instead of diamonds .. a twofer!


40 posted on 01/06/2007 8:40:05 PM PST by EDINVA (a)
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