Posted on 01/08/2007 10:17:19 AM PST by rellimpank
And the federal government approves
Concerned about illegal aliens coming here and getting just as good a deal from our government "entitlement" programs as U.S. citizens? Have your friends and acquaintances, perhaps, gone so far as to suggest you may be a little "paranoid" on this score?
Well, they're right, and it turns out you were wrong all along. Foreign nationals are not going to be able to come here illegally and get just a good a deal from our Social Security system as legal immigrants and American-born workers.
They're going to get a much better deal.
On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Commissioner of Social Security and the director general of the Mexican Social Security Institute reached an agreement. And if you haven't heard about it, you're not the only one.
(Excerpt) Read more at reviewjournal.com ...
so this is how Congress is going to "save" sosh security?
what a plan!
Why would we even let legal aliens collect social security benefits? Seems like it ought to be a benefit of citizenship.
There are no words to describe this...
Here is the actual agreement, complete with her signature.....everything in the above article IS true!
http://www.tscl.org/NewContent/Totalization_Agreement.pdf
10 pdf pages, you can read it just fine, zoomed to 200% in adobe reader....
It is still kind of unbelievable. I wonder what kind of force this agreement holds?
Bump and ping - Social Security debacle.
Shouldn't we be spending al these $$$ on globle warming or going to Mars, or some other scam?
If they work and pay into it, then they should get out too.
They pay gas taxes and use the roads. They pay property tax and their kids go to school.
There are 2 quick steps to solving social security:
1) STOP illegals from collecting
2) FORCE congress to use SS instead of their own sweet retirement deal..
if (2) were implemented, SS would be fixed in hours..
I don't agree. Social security is going bust. It's a choice between paying the social security benefits promised to Americans, or social security benefits to foreigners.
By they way, the social security taxes we pay don't come anywhere near covering the cost of the benefits we get. That's the whole problem.
(Aztlan Association of Retired Peasants)
Fortunately we have a President who believes in the rule of law, and he will not allow this to happen.
HAHA, I made a funny.
Well, from a politically Leninist perspective, one might argue that this surreal distortion of actuarial realities will 'sharpen the contradictions' between American Socialist ideology and American Socialist reality, and bring about the overdue end of SS.
Hahaha.
Perhaps you need to read the article again. You missed a few key details.
Yes, illegal aliens pay SOME taxes. They get back a lot more than they pay. In 2004, they got TEN billion in refunds!
TEN BILLION dollars was given back to illegal aliens in income tax refunds (EIC) in 2004. And of course the government knows where they are!
TEN BILLION.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/04/gb.01.html
BECK: This is insanity. You know, I just saw a number -- and tell me if this number is right, if you even have it -- I just saw a number on, in 2004, what we paid illegal aliens in tax refunds, 2004. Do you know this number?
CAMAROTA: Yes, I believe -- the figure I`ve heard is about $10 billion. That`s based on estimates that the Treasury Department has done itself, $10 billion they paid back to illegal aliens.
BECK: That is insane. We`re paying them $10 billion, and we can`t arrest them, we can`t even find them, we don`t even know -- $10 billion? And now we`re giving them Social Security, one that we don`t need another country to sabotage for us. We`re doing it ourselves. The whole thing is going to collapse.
CAMAROTA: Yes, and what`s worse than that is, that the IRS issues them tax I.D. numbers so that they can then file their income tax with their false Social Security numbers so that we can give them their $10 billion back.
BECK: OK, all right. So the last thing here -- let me just role play here for a second. I`m an illegal alien. I have to now go to the government and prove to the government that I have a fake I.D., that I bought a fake Social Security card on the street in the black market, and then the government rewards me for that, right?
CAMAROTA: Yes, in effect, sure. Once you get legal status, then you apply for the credits that you earned while you were an illegal alien. And the way you do that is like you said: You show your false documents. You bring out your bogus tax returns, and so forth.
comments 3 and 10 specifically refer to LEGAL aliens.
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