Posted on 01/08/2007 5:47:50 PM PST by Sam Cree
Mush better than the alternative. LOL
Buenos nachos.
I agree with you.
I am an avid ready and always have been. My tastes are varied...but i could NEVER get through one of hemmingways books. BORING! long winded and pretentious.
but, to each their own:) I happen to live right by walloon lake which some know was his families vacation spot when he was growing up and was referred to in "farewell to arms".
I knew it. Never could find it.
You're right, I didn't know about the poems.
Please . . . the stuff he actually did do trumps the stuff most people do by a long shot.
I agree. For Whom the Bell Tolls, for example---that sounds like a real action you'd expect to find in a history book.
Fifty Grand.
Doesn't get much better . . . Andre Dubus (RIP) comes close.
Don't forget the Nick Adams stories (as well as other short stories) and one of the best memoirs ever written: "A Moveable Feast." All Hail Hem.
I'm a huge Hemingway fan and I'm a woman. I love all American literature of the first half of the 20th Century. Hemingway was a breakthrough author with his terse, muscular prose.
I'm still hoping that people will come to recognize Thomas Wolfe as one of America's greatest writers (as they did until the 1960s).
Why would anyone bother to teach that? The Garden of Eden was a pure novelty---handwritten (I believe) rough draft sketches from Hemingway's notebooks that were stitched together some thirty-plus years after Hemingway's death by his son. The only possible teaching element you could draw from The Garden of Eden is "yeah, this is what a writer's rough draft looks like."
Sorry, but I believe pissant is right. Two main sorts of people tend to hate Hemingway: (1) women, and (2) artsy-fartsy limp-wristed types who need to destroy the Hemingway myth in order to promote their own introspective, verbose garbage.
I own a first edition. It's absolutely terrible.
"Two main sorts of people tend to hate Hemingway: (1) women, and (2) artsy-fartsy limp-wristed types who need to destroy the Hemingway myth in order to promote their own introspective, verbose garbage."
LOL. Some of those who knew him best suspected Hemingway was an "artsy-fartsy limp-wristed type" who just went out of his way (perhaps too far) to hide it. (Cf Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald, Max Eastman, McAlmon his first publisher -- for starters.)
But you forgot another group who hated Hemingway: those who knew him.
Including all of his editors and publishers (Eastman, McAlmon), and his erstwhile "friends," and those who felt he lifted his style and even some of his material from them (Gertrude Stein, Sherwood Anderson)...
For the record I don't hate Hemingway at all. In fact, I even helped to write and produce an international mini-series on him. I just know about him.
I see you can re-heat Wikipedia with the best of them:
Gertrude Stein criticized him in her book The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas, suggesting that he had derived his prose style from her own and from Sherwood Anderson's.
Max Eastman? Sour grapes.
Robert McAlmon? Pissed off because he only got Three Stories and Ten Poems , and not any other.
Zelda Fitzgerald? Give me a break---her own husband knew she was a drunk and a mental patient (see Nicole Diver, et al).
Scott Fitzgerald? It's too bad their friendship ended like it did.
"she was a drunk and a mental patient"
Ahem.
The fact is that there are very few people if any who were friends with Hemingway for long.
Gee, really?
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