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An Unreal Debate: Stem-cell ideologues vs. the facts
National Review ^ | January 10, 2007 | Yuval Levin

Posted on 01/10/2007 12:36:15 PM PST by Caleb1411

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1 posted on 01/10/2007 12:36:20 PM PST by Caleb1411
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To: rhema; MHGinTN; cpforlife.org; Salvation

BTTT


2 posted on 01/10/2007 12:37:04 PM PST by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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To: Caleb1411

Idealogues ... an apt description. Folks should recall the recent cases of leukemia following gene therapy. Tread lightly ...


3 posted on 01/10/2007 12:38:40 PM PST by sono (For everyone but America the free world is mostly a free ride. - Mark Steyn)
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To: Caleb1411

Someone needs to nail this article to Orin Hatch's forehead.


4 posted on 01/10/2007 12:41:40 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: Caleb1411
Again and again they refuse to acknowledge the increasing evidence that genuine alternatives to embryo-destructive research may be possible.

Willful blindness. They do not want alternatives. They desire some compelling reason to "justify" the destruction of unborn humans. It's not about making Michael J Fox stop shaking. They don't care about Mike. It's all about preserving Roe v Wade. So long as some justification for destroying pre-persons is found, then Roe has some life left in it.

5 posted on 01/10/2007 12:45:03 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Willful blindness. They do not want alternatives.

This isn't just politics as usual. There is something diabolical about the full-court press to start destroying human embryos on the faint and virtually non-existent hope of finding a "cure" to anything. These proponents seem to be salivating at the possibility.

6 posted on 01/10/2007 12:49:12 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: Caleb1411

BTTT!


7 posted on 01/10/2007 12:50:57 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: My2Cents
Child sacrifice (to Ba'al) was part of Canaanite worship. The Left today is at war with God (and has been since 1789). The Left is a culture of death and almost all left-wing policies reflect this. I don't think it's an accident. I don't think it's just bad ideology. I believe that this is the devil's work.
8 posted on 01/10/2007 12:57:08 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: My2Cents

For liberals, it's not about the science or the facts, it's about the principle of the matter. When somebody tells them they shouldn't do something because it's wrong, immoral, unethical, etc., it doesn't matter what it is, they MUST have a license to do it. This stems from their worldview that there are no eternal consequences, no moral absolutes and no accountability for one's actions. Anything(even things that are by nature harmful) that suggests otherwise MUST be allowed or their entire worldview falls apart.


9 posted on 01/10/2007 1:19:07 PM PST by The Blitherer (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. -Reagan)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/treatments.htm

Benefits of Stem Cells to Human Patients

Adult Stem Cells v. Embryonic Stem Cells
Download This List
Peer-Reviewed References (not a complete listing, sample references)

Adult Stem Cells

Embryonic Stem Cells

    Cancers:

  1. Brain Cancer
  2. Retinoblastoma
  3. Ovarian Cancer
  4. Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma
  5. Testicular Cancer
  6. Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma
  7. Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma
  8. Hodgkin’s Lymphoma
  9. Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia
  10. Acute Myelogenous Leukemia
  11. Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia
  12. Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia
  13. Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia
  14. Cancer of the lymph nodes: Angioimmunoblastic Lymphadenopathy
  15. Multiple Myeloma
  16. Myelodysplasia
  17. Breast Cancer
  18. Neuroblastoma
  19. Renal Cell Carcinoma
  20. Various Solid Tumors
  21. Soft Tissue Sarcoma
  22. Ewing’s Sarcoma
  23. Waldenstrom’s macroglobulinemia
  24. Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis
  25. POEMS syndrome
  26. Myelofibrosis

    Auto-Immune Diseases

  27. Systemic Lupus
  28. Sjogren’s Syndrome
  29. Myasthenia
  30. Autoimmune Cytopenia
  31. Scleromyxedema
  32. Scleroderma
  33. Crohn’s Disease
  34. Behcet’s Disease
  35. Rheumatoid Arthritis
  36. Juvenile Arthritis
  37. Multiple Sclerosis
  38. Polychondritis
  39. Systemic Vasculitis
  40. Alopecia Universalis
  41. Buerger’s Disease

    Cardiovascular

  42. Acute Heart Damage
  43. Chronic Coronary Artery Disease

    Ocular

  44. Corneal regeneration

    Immunodeficiencies

  45. Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome
  46. X-linked Lymphoproliferative Syndrome
  47. X-linked Hyper immunoglobulin M Syndrome

    Neural Degenerative Diseases and Injuries

  48. Parkinson’s Disease
  49. Spinal Cord Injury
  50. Stroke Damage

    Anemias and Other Blood Conditions

  51. Sickle Cell Anemia
  52. Sideroblastic Anemia
  53. Aplastic Anemia
  54. Red Cell Aplasia
  55. Amegakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia
  56. Thalassemia
  57. Primary Amyloidosis
  58. Diamond Blackfan Anemia
  59. Fanconi’s Anemia
  60. Chronic Epstein-Barr Infection

    Wounds and Injuries

  61. Limb Gangrene
  62. Surface Wound Healing
  63. Jawbone Replacement
  64. Skull Bone Repair

    Other Metabolic Disorders

  65. Hurler’s Syndrome
  66. Osteogenesis Imperfecta
  67. Krabbe Leukodystrophy
  68. Osteopetrosis
  69. Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy

    Liver Disease

  70. Chronic Liver Failure
  71. Liver Cirrhosis

    Bladder Disease

  72. End-Stage Bladder Disease

NONE

Peer-Reviewed References (not a complete listing, sample references)

The Facts - Prentice, D. "Adult Stem Cells" Appendix K in Monitoring Stem Cell Research: A Report of the President's Council on Bioethics (Washington, DC: Government Printing Office, 2004), 309-346.

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10 posted on 01/10/2007 2:25:41 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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But in the House, most of the Democrats and a few Republican opponents of the president’s policy decided they could not support the search for a solution. They opposed the bill, and prevented its passage. Their intransigence sent a very strange message: They would have the federal government fund the exploration of pluripotent stem cells only if it involved destroying human embryos. Otherwise, they were not interested. They would only back the science if it were controversial. These opponents of the stem-cell-alternatives bill included the entire Democratic House leadership, and this year they have prevented the same bill from even coming to a vote. As this issue becomes clearer to the public, it also becomes clearer to the public that the democrat party cannot afford to turn aside from anything which involves the destruction of younger humans for their body parts to treat older humans, because to turn aside even once is to acknowledge that it is wrong to commit this cannibalism.

We saw this same insane defense of the indefensible with the debate over the heinous partial birth abortion issue ... democrats (including hillary and Barbara Boxer) could not step away from defending the evil because to do so even once would have indicated that the abortion on demand issue is wrong at the heart of it, meaning the Democrats have been wrong in defending and pushing it.

Sadly, democrats cannot understand that they originally made an honest mistake, so they remain committed to repeating in even greater evil the original mistake! Even sadder is the number of Catholics and other Christians who have continued to vote these same politicians back into office despite the support for evil deeds.

11 posted on 01/10/2007 2:28:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

Exactly. Very well put.


12 posted on 01/10/2007 2:35:34 PM PST by The Blitherer (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. -Reagan)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; Peach; airborne; Asphalt; Dr. Scarpetta; I'm ALL Right!; StAnDeliver; ...

Go to the original article at NRO if you want to check out more than a dozen links within it.


13 posted on 01/10/2007 2:58:28 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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14 posted on 01/10/2007 3:03:09 PM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army, 1967-1991, Infantry OCS Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning)
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To: Caleb1411

The irony is that Bush is the first president to authorize federal funds for embryonic stem cell research.


15 posted on 01/10/2007 3:06:23 PM PST by kabar
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To: ClearCase_guy
They would have the federal government fund the exploration of pluripotent stem cells only if it involved destroying human embryos. Otherwise, they were not interested.

And that, my friend, sums up the entire debate.

It's all about sticking it to the religious right and the right to lifers to show them just who is in charge.

Because if it was about research, they would be funding their own resaerch with minimal government help as does MS, Cystic Fybrosis, Muscular Dystrophy and about 100 other such organizations.

16 posted on 01/10/2007 4:03:45 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: neverdem

bump


17 posted on 01/10/2007 4:10:18 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Caleb1411

Happily, the science of stem cell research continues beneath the din of yapping ideologues. Progress will be made.


18 posted on 01/10/2007 4:25:12 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: Caleb1411
The false claims are familiar by now. We continue to hear there is a “ban” on federal funding of embryonic-stem-cell research. But in fact, the Bush administration was the first to fund the research

He voted for it, before he voted against it.

That news has been almost exclusively about the emerging possibility of developing cells with the abilities of those derived from embryos, but without the need to harm human embryos.

Embryonic stem-cell abilities are almost entirely theoretical, even now. See Here

19 posted on 01/10/2007 8:34:38 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: geronrocks

Care to weigh in on this thread?


20 posted on 01/10/2007 8:40:32 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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