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Former Presidents Carter & Clinton call for 'A New Baptist Covenantí
Baptist Press ^ | Jan 10, 2007 | Erin Roach

Posted on 01/11/2007 8:59:58 AM PST by presidio9

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To: martin_fierro

I was thinking he's more a "Raptist"


61 posted on 01/11/2007 10:13:04 AM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: day10

It is bad enough that so called liberal Christianity has destroyed the historic Presbyterian, Methodist and Episcopal churches, now these two bumpkins with as much spiritual integrity as Osama want the Baptists to forget Biblical theology, integrity, evangelism and the center-piece of of Christianity, the examples of Jesus Himself. For them and Chavez,Jesus was just a pacifist, socialist and revolutionary with no spiritual standards. Clinton especially likes that one.


62 posted on 01/11/2007 10:22:25 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: presidio9

This has been coming for a long time. I have been warning my leftist friends who are constantly freaking out about church/state separation that they need to be more careful of the left, than the right on these issues.

It is one thing to have a church support certain governmental policies. It is another to have politicians establishing religion.

Said another way: the problem is not when religion and religious people influence government...the problem is when politicians influence religion.


63 posted on 01/11/2007 10:27:05 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: reagan_fanatic
Former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have proposed the establishment of a broadly inclusive alternative Baptist movement to counter what they called a negative image of Baptists and to address poverty, the environment and global conflicts.

Whenever anybody, much less these 2 preening hypocrites, calls for "inclusive" Christianity, they mean jettisoning the Bible.

Also note that their agenda is based on being concerned about the "negative image" of Baptists. Jesus spoke pretty clearly on how the world would view Christians, but I guess these 2 know better.

64 posted on 01/11/2007 10:27:34 AM PST by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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To: presidio9
Former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have proposed the establishment of a broadly inclusive alternative Baptist movement to counter what they called a negative image of Baptists and to address poverty, the environment and global conflicts.

You mean (gasp) we can.........dance in public now?

65 posted on 01/11/2007 10:33:01 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: day10

Why do I see an analogy to the Communist Party infiltration of the Catholic Church in Poland with the Democrats push for a "Christian angle" on their political party?


66 posted on 01/11/2007 10:33:51 AM PST by weegee (A higher minimum wage means a higher income tax level. Did they really get a raise in the end?)
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To: presidio9
Former Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton have proposed the establishment of a broadly inclusive alternative Baptist movement to counter what they called a negative image of Baptists.

Don't groups like the Baptists hire people like America's Presidents to represent them in the media? I guess that even though these two had twelve years to do the job, all they did is drag the Baptist's reputation down with them.

My Grandmama had it right when she noted that the most prominent member of a group forms the image of that group in everyone else's mind.

67 posted on 01/11/2007 10:45:28 AM PST by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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To: JFC
Methodists are just as bad. Here is the list of churches belonging to the VERY LIBERAL National Council of Churches. If your church is on this list, they're involved in all kinds of extremely left political activities plus the promotion of homosexuality and abortion, to name a few.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church

• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church

• Alliance of Baptists

• American Baptist Churches in the USA

• The Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America

• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America

• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)

• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church

• Church of the Brethren

• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America

• The Episcopal Church

• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

• Friends United Meeting

• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

• Hungarian Reformed Church in America

• International Council of Community Churches

• Korean Presbyterian Church in America

• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church

• Mar Thoma Church

• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province

• National Baptist Convention of America

• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.

• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America

• Orthodox Church in America

• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA

• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends

• Polish National Catholic Church of America

• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)

• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.

• Reformed Church in America

• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada

• The Swedenborgian Church

• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch

• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America

• United Church of Christ

• The United Methodist Church

68 posted on 01/11/2007 10:46:29 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: weegee
Why do I see an analogy to the Communist Party infiltration of the Catholic Church in Poland

Still going on today in China where there is a Communist Party sanctioned Catholic Church (the party appoints the bishops) an underground Catholic Church (attendance of which is a capital offense).

69 posted on 01/11/2007 10:49:39 AM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: presidio9

I hate the politicizing of faith. I hate it when conservatives do it and I especially loathe it men liberals do it.

When faith becomes a means to an end it is no longer faith it is a political mechanism. The meaning of faith is faith itself.


70 posted on 01/11/2007 10:49:47 AM PST by tomcorn
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To: MeanWestTexan

The Church of Two Backwoods Bubbas.


71 posted on 01/11/2007 10:50:29 AM PST by Cecily
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To: antonia
My Grandmama had it right when she noted that the most prominent member of a group forms the image of that group in everyone else's mind.

Not so with the Catholic Church. Thanks to the mainstream media, instead of Pope John Paul II, or Mother Theresa, when people think of the Catholic Church today the knee-jerk image is of a handful of perverts.

72 posted on 01/11/2007 10:52:12 AM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: presidio9
Come to think of it, there isn't any commandment that Clinton didn't ignore repeatedly except 5. By all accounts, his father was a scumbag

The apple didn't fall far from the tree.

73 posted on 01/11/2007 10:58:13 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: presidio9

A more accurate picture of Cahtlicism would be its " catholic" nature ( the adjective) Catholcism is no more monolithic than protestantism. Within the body of Catholics you run the range from Nazis to Communists. As my brother noted Catholicisnm in the only faith in which you could have Pat Buchanan, Joe McCarthy, The berrigan Brothers and Daniel Ortega sitting in the same pew read the same St. Joseph's missal.

In Poland elements of the Church served as a bulwark against communism while others collaborated with it.


74 posted on 01/11/2007 11:00:46 AM PST by tomcorn
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To: MikeA

concur.
i have to admit i added the latest keyword (starts with "a").
fundamentalist southern baptist bible-believin PING !!


75 posted on 01/11/2007 11:01:06 AM PST by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day...)
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To: presidio9

76 posted on 01/11/2007 11:03:36 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: presidio9

They're going to replace with communion with child sacrifice?


77 posted on 01/11/2007 11:05:06 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: GQuagmire

We would laugh at them if we were invited.


78 posted on 01/11/2007 11:05:17 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an Angel)
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To: weegee

Ezactly.


79 posted on 01/11/2007 11:06:02 AM PST by day10 (Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense.)
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To: JFC

these are not REAL Baptists!


80 posted on 01/11/2007 11:06:17 AM PST by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day...)
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