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http://www.congress.org/congressorg/webreturn/?url=http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.1: | 13 January, 2007 | self

Posted on 01/13/2007 9:14:29 AM PST by joanie-f

Edited on 01/13/2007 10:59:19 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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’Freedom of Speech’ by Norman Rockwell

It was nearly 4 AM when I wrote this, and I was suffering from a spate of insomnia. It’s hard to sleep when you’re spitting nails. You probably are too, or soon will be …

See if you can wrap your mind around the latest travesty that is seeking to pass itself off as Constitutional legislation. I’ve been having a lot of trouble absorbing the extent of the evil embodied in the democrats’ most recent assault on my, and your, inalienable rights. My mind prefers to be in a state of denial about this one. Accepting it would be tantamount to an admission that I no longer wield any power at all in the political arena, and that the final nail has been driven into the coffin of government ‘of, by and for the people’.

As if the McCain-Feingold ‘Campaign Finance Reform’ bill weren’t a despicable enough example of the left’s determination to suppress the voice of the average citizen in the political process, the new democrat-controlled senate has introduced yet another assault on the First Amendment -- at least that portion of it that guarantees free speech to the average citizen, and those grassroots organizations that attempt to work in his behalf. As is generally the case, the big guys are exempt from the chains that are being prescribed for you and me.

The ‘grassroots lobbying’ section of newly introduced U.S. Senate Bill 1 (Section 220) contains burdensome reporting requirements, mandatory on a quarterly basis, for just the kinds of grassroots groups that have organized to look out for you and me. And there are civil fines of up to $100,000 if they fail to comply with the new federal dictates.

Under Senate Bill 1, any grassroots lobbying organization -- i.e., again, most of the groups that you and I support, and to whom we look for information that the media choose not to publicize or disclose -- would have to report the issues, the names and specifics of their employees, and how much they spend on what is called ‘paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying’ (note that the vagueness of that particular phrase is cavernous).

The groups affected are defined as ‘any organizations that encourage five hundred or more members of the general public to contact Congress’ (*gasp!* -- we can’t have the American people contacting Congress! That would lead to the dreaded ‘A-word’ – accountability).

This massive and burdensome reporting requirement will kick in if the organization plans to do one of two things: (1) request a face-to-face or written communication, regarding a question or concern about public policy, with someone in the executive or legislative branch, or (2) encourage citizens to contact the executive or legislative branch (again, ‘encouraging’ is not defined, so the wording leaves significant room for interpretation by those on the Hill, and their buddies in the judiciary, who want to silence any opposition, or any group that seeks to make public what is going on within the walls of the senate, house, or the administration).

There is no minimum dollar spending floor. Any grassroots organization that attempts to arouse the citizenry to thought or action, or merely seeks to inform, will be expected to jump through a myriad of expensive and time-consuming bureaucratic hoops -- so many of them that a significant number of these groups will become severely financially strained. They will be forced to keep detailed records of expenditures on informing the public about any issue: their consulting fees, printing or broadcast/telecast costs, postage, advertising, personnel, etc.

Obviously, the cost of meeting these bureaucratic regulations will be prohibitive. And that is precisely the reason for this proposed legislation: to keep you and me from learning those tyrannical, unconstitutional legislative travesties of which the 'powers that be' would prefer we remain ignorant.

Perhaps the unkindest cut of all is contained in the fact that the bill makes broad exemptions for larger, organized groups who employ paid lobbyists – those who don’t rely primarily on grassroots communication to get their messages out (i.e., unions, large corporations, etc.) The Teamsters, the NEA, AARP, moveon.org, and other leftist ‘membership’ groups will not fall under the bill’s bureaucratic mandates.

Ain’t that convenient for those in ‘leadership’ positions who believe the Constitution is outmoded – i.e., would-be tyrants, one-world agenda adherents, and elitists?

This offensive bill was introduced by Harry Reid along with seventeen co-conspirators, three of them 'republicans':

Sen Robert Bennett [R-UT]
Sen Sherrod Brown [D-OH]
Sen Maria Cantwell [D-WA]
Sen Susan Collins [RINO-ME]
Sen Dick ‘Our Troops are Nazis’ Durbin [D-IL]
Sen Diane ‘Not-So’ Feinstein [D-CA]
Sen Frank Lautenberg[D-NJ]
Sen Patrick ‘Leakin’ Leahy [D-VT]
Sen Joe Lieberman [D-CT]
Sen ‘Traitor’ Lott [R-MS]
Sen Mitch McConnell [R-KY]
Sen Robert Menendez [D-NJ]
Sen Barbara Mikulski [D-MD]
Sen Ken Salazar [D-CO]
Sen ‘Chuckie’ Schumer[D-NY]
Sen Debbie Stabenow [D-MI]
Sen Jim ‘Porn Writer’ Webb [D-VA]

I would suggest that we all also call or e-mail our own senators and voice our outrage, but it will take a major activist movement to stop this particular steamroller. And, since most of the grassroots movements that will be suffocated (some of them even extinguished) under this bill came into being precisely because the media is failing to inform, you can bet that this particular bill will be kept under tight wraps by those very same media. Negligent journalism, at best – conspiratorial, more likely.

Welcome to Amerika.

(S.1, Sec.220)

P.S. An interesting side note, for anyone who may not be aware of it:

hy-po-cri-sy -- noun – insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have

Nancy Pelosi promised that an ‘ethics overhaul’ would top the agenda in the new congressional session. Well, the ‘Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007’ has just increased the federal minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.25 an hour over the next two years. But ... oddly (or perhaps not so) ... the only exemption to the law is American Samoa. Why? Because StarKist Tuna is the largest employer on the island. And Starkist’s parent company, Del Monte Corporation, is headquartered in Nancy Pelosi’s district. Nancy appears to have a different definition of ‘ethical’ than the rest of us.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; constitution; firstamendment; freespeech

1 posted on 01/13/2007 9:14:33 AM PST by joanie-f
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To: nutmeg; GVNR; Squantos; The Spirit Of Allegiance; EveningStar; RadioAstronomer; Brad's Gramma; ...

FYI, if you're not already aware of it.


2 posted on 01/13/2007 9:16:21 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
3 posted on 01/13/2007 9:21:42 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Democrat Congress is increasing the value of freedom by making it rare.
4 posted on 01/13/2007 9:26:55 AM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: joanie-f

Thanks. I know they plan on shutting any opposition down, but, I didn't know it went to that extent. I cry for my country's future and it pisses me off that I do.


5 posted on 01/13/2007 9:30:04 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: oyez

Those who will not be constrained by the Constitution of the United States will not be constrained by anything.

If only the Democrats were the only ones who are led by constitutional morons.


6 posted on 01/13/2007 9:31:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: EternalVigilance
If only the Democrats were the only ones who are led by constitutional morons.

I agree with your general point, EV, but they are not "constitutional morons." They just don't respect the document and are on a decades long crusade to bury it.

7 posted on 01/13/2007 9:38:20 AM PST by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: joanie-f

Good article. Thanks for writing it and posting it.


8 posted on 01/13/2007 9:38:28 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: joanie-f

Great post, lass. I'm gonna use your links this afternoon when I can come up with the right scathing wording.


9 posted on 01/13/2007 9:39:05 AM PST by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: processing please hold

Boon we'll be forced to print handbills on manual printing presses in our basements under the threat of execution if caught.


10 posted on 01/13/2007 9:39:09 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: philetus

Correction:Boon = Soon


11 posted on 01/13/2007 9:39:52 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: joanie-f
Another "well done" joanie. You're probably aware Focus on the Family and the American Family Association have both sent out flyers re this "issue". Several have been posted on FR with sickeningly little response. I think that says a lot more about the membership of FR than most of us would like to admit.

I hope your well chosen words and style will create more interest in this most recent attack on our God given, Constitutinally guaranteed rights than has been previously shown. I won't be holding my breath gal.

Keep up the fight.

FGS

12 posted on 01/13/2007 9:49:47 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: oyez

Clever; thanks for the chuckle...


13 posted on 01/13/2007 9:51:42 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: joanie-f

Lott is a (R), although I agree he doesn't deserve the letter after his name...


14 posted on 01/13/2007 9:52:18 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: philetus
I agree. My poor grandchildren will never know the country I grew up in. They won't know what it was like. I'll tell them stories of how it used to be and they may roll their eyes and think, granny's gone off the edge again. They'll see the United States of America in history books. When they're older it'll be the North American Union.

I now thank God my pop is dead and never lived to see what's happening to the country he fought for, 'twice'.

15 posted on 01/13/2007 9:53:45 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: All
Some valuable additional research, posted by a friend who is a former FReeper, on my weblog:

Doing some further research into the sausage-making process at the Senate, it seems like Section 220 was added as an amendment to S.1 by Harry Reid on Jan 9th. He had the following co-sponsors, so the idea that the three republican co-conspirators weren't aware of Section 220 is now toast.

McConnell [R-KY], Feinstein [D-CA] Bennett [R-UT], Sen Lieberman [D-CT], Collins [R-ME], Obama [D-IL], Salazar [D-CO], and Durbin [D-IL].

The amendment was discussed on Jan 10th without a quorum present.

It was discussed again on the 11th, with a quorum this time, but after reading as much of the Congressional Record as I could stomach, I could find no discussion of Section 220 at all. My eyes glazed over while reading Robert "Sheets" Byrd's senile rant on the Iraq war, which somehow the old geezer managed to force the senate to listen to. I think everybody just wanted to go home at that point.

Then 43 democrats and three republicans (Lott, Voinovich, and Bennett) tried to table the amendments and summarily pass the bill. They were outvoted by 51-46. They tried again several times later that evening until senators drifted away to attend to more important matters (football game?) and a quorum was no longer present.

It was that close to passing with absolutely no discussion, folks...

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

16 posted on 01/13/2007 9:55:20 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: traviskicks

Thanks for the alert. That is a typo, of course. Wish I could fix it. :(


17 posted on 01/13/2007 9:55:58 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

Allegiance and Duty Betrayed site-bookmarked.


18 posted on 01/13/2007 9:57:04 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: EternalVigilance
Those who will not be constrained by the Constitution of the United States will not be constrained by anything.

Bears repeating, and very careful consideration by those who are more interested in what Rosie and Donald are doing than in their own ability to voice their grievances.

19 posted on 01/13/2007 9:57:48 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: philetus
Soon we'll be forced to print handbills on manual printing presses in our basements under the threat of execution if caught.

Not really as far-fetched as some might think. Give it a few years.

20 posted on 01/13/2007 9:58:50 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Yes, I received notification from Focus on the Family, but wasn't aware that AFA was sending out red flags as well. Glad to hear it, and thanks for the kind words, FGS. :)


21 posted on 01/13/2007 10:00:16 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: EternalVigilance
It will not be long before our collective voices will be given a choice: be muffled or be compliant to the powers which wish to control our voices. Americans can be burdened with just so much before rebelling. They will rue the day when their mistaking our acquiescence for timidity is proven to be in error.
22 posted on 01/13/2007 10:03:03 AM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: processing please hold
I now thank God my pop is dead and never lived to see what's happening to the country he fought for, 'twice'.

My dear Dad died in 2001, shortly after 9/11. He was a veteran of World War II, and often said that he had 'seen America's best days' (meaning that she is in sorry decline).

I have often said, as you voiced here, that the only fortunate thing about the fact that he is no longer living is that it would break his heart to see what has become of his beloved country in the mere five years since he passed away.

~ joanie

23 posted on 01/13/2007 10:03:42 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

The four-box system:

soap box
ballot box
jury box
cartridge box

Which one of these is left?


24 posted on 01/13/2007 10:07:50 AM PST by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: Noumenon

I fear that we're fast approaching Claire Wolfe's once-fuzzy line of demarcation.


25 posted on 01/13/2007 10:13:24 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

This one needs to be shouted from the rooftops, or that option may be taken away too!


26 posted on 01/13/2007 10:17:39 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: ZULU

Ping

More info on that Senate Bill 1.

:)


27 posted on 01/13/2007 10:23:32 AM PST by CaliGirl-R (Is America becoming a "safe haven" for terrorists?)
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To: joanie-f

I understand exactly how you feel as well. We lost our dad's around the same time. Feels like forever since I've spoken to him. I have no one to call me their daughter.


28 posted on 01/13/2007 10:25:47 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: EternalVigilance

bump


29 posted on 01/13/2007 10:44:49 AM PST by jpsb
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To: joanie-f

Even though we are still "free" to contact Congress, they seem to be free to not respond. In my attempts to contact them, the disconnect has been complete and total.

They take care of each other, and couldn't care less about representing the American public.



30 posted on 01/13/2007 11:05:36 AM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: La Enchiladita

Has anyone done a comparison of HR1 and Sen1 yet?


31 posted on 01/13/2007 11:13:08 AM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: Admin Moderator
Is there any chance of putting this under the "Breaking News" heading so that we can get more people contacting the Senate?

TIA.

32 posted on 01/13/2007 11:32:06 AM PST by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: joanie-f

Thanks for the ping, joanie~f...and a BTTT!


33 posted on 01/13/2007 12:26:46 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (http://SelectSmart.com/plus/select.php?url=08frontrunners)
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To: joanie-f
"...the new democrat-controlled senate has introduced yet another assault on the First Amendment -- at least that portion of it that guarantees free speech to the average citizen, and those grassroots organizations that attempt to work in his behalf. As is generally the case, the big guys are exempt from the chains that are being prescribed for you and me."

Bush could and should have vetoed CFR, but instead chose to avoid the flak altogether by tossing it over the transom to SCOTUS which, the White House was convinced, would surely declare it unconstitutional (well, "surprise, surprise" as Goober used to intone). Of course, an increasingly out-of-touch SCOTUS, still part of our federal Komintern,, didn't do that, leaving Bush with egg on his face and a thoroughly pissed off conservative base. Now comes presidential opportunity #2. Will Bush, this time, step up and do what we elect our presidents to do, protect and defend the Constitution, and veto HR 1? Or will he sign it as presented, like he has everything else?

I am not optimistic.

34 posted on 01/13/2007 5:00:59 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: joanie-f
..."The groups affected are defined as ‘any organizations that encourage five hundred or more members of the general public to contact Congress ... encourage citizens to contact the executive or legislative branch... I would suggest that we all also call or e-mail our own senators and voice our outrage, but it will take a major activist movement to stop this particular steamroller."

Comrade! You are already in violation! /s Seriously, this provides not only a check on participation by the "little guy", it actually provides a means of identifying troublemakers and malcontents.. Ever read about certain tax authorities going after people? It can happen. The one thing that controversial legislation or variants thereof, is it gets people riled. "Stick it to 'em, and see who squeels."
35 posted on 01/13/2007 5:15:09 PM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: processing please hold

They'll see the United States of America in history books."

Which means they will never know the truth.

The history books are redacted while the history is still warm.


36 posted on 01/13/2007 7:03:56 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: joanie-f

Not really as far-fetched as some might think. Give it a few years."


If you had said on Jan. 19, 2001, that Bush would refuse to protect our borders for two terms, how many Freepers would have told you to put on your tin foil hat?


37 posted on 01/13/2007 7:09:01 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: philetus
If you had said on Jan. 19, 2001, that Bush would refuse to protect our borders for two terms, how many Freepers would have told you to put on your tin foil hat?

Especially in the wake of 9/11, I would have laughed at anyone who even suggested that our borders would remain open for another five-plus years. But I've become more 'street-wise' in those same five-plus years, in that I know realize that the large majority of our leadership in DC has other than my best interests at heart.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

38 posted on 01/13/2007 9:40:31 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Czar; Freedom4US; philetus; Noumenon
I am not optimistic.

I am of the same mind as you, czar.

The analysis on the Free Speech Coalition site is excellent – especially their continual reference to the fact that the bill would pose financial and legal penalties on those simply wishing to exercise their First Amendment rights, without first registering with Congress.

As mentioned before, the loophole in the bill will allow large trade unions, corporations, and other special interest groups to collect and spend hundreds of millions of dollars in order to brainwash voters into accepting their point of view. Even foreign corporations, and foreign nationals, would fall under the exemption. But small citizen associations will be monitored closely, and will have to expend great time and expense to abide by the bill’s dictates.

The Founders would be horrified at the notion that, under the provisions of this bill, public interest groups, representing average citizens, must register with the government in order to question government actions, and in order to disperse the results of their analysis to American citizens.

The analysis of the bill (undertaken by four attorneys knowledgeable in the machinations of congress, and Constitutional scholars all) concludes with these two telling paragraphs:

H.R. 4682 [the companion bill to S.1] would target and restrict the First Amendment rights of citizens on an unprecedented and needless basis. There is no correlation between the fundamental rights being targeted by this and similar bills and the real ethics and corruption problems in Washington. The bill also provides huge loopholes for wealthy Washington insiders and special interests that actually may be engaging in (1) writing legislation and making policy without disclosure and ‘sunshine’, (2) providing money, gifts and trips for members of congress, and (3) seeking pork, privileges and handouts from congress.

There are ways to legislate to reduce corruption in Washington, but regulating First Amendment rights, in the way H.R. 4682 [and its counterpart S.1] proposes to do, would only further corruption, not reduce it.

Bottom line: If you or I, or the groups that have organized to represent us, dare to inquire as to the motives or methods of our elected representatives, we must ‘register’ with them first, and then continually report our every move, contact and expense to them, so that they can monitor (and perhaps even anticipate) our actions. Yet those powerfully entrenched, agenda-driven, wealth-backed (and even foreign-backed) special interest groups, whose motives are often far more sinister than a mere desire for information, are completely unrestricted under this particular bill – no registering, no forms, no reporting, no monitoring.

I would like to ask Ms. Pelosi, her cohorts in the house, and their counterparts in the senate, to explain the liberty-based parameters under which they believe this to be a necessary, let alone Constitutional, bill. Interestingly, should it be signed into law, my ability to do just that would be severely limited.

I’ve said countless times before, and I believe this to be a good example: the leftists can get away with this incremental dissolution of our Constitutionally-guaranteed liberties because the media do not report on their crimes, but, even more importantly, the average American simply doesn’t even care enough to know.

I used to occasionally watch re-runs of Hannity and Colmes late at night. I will never again do that. With all of the government negligence in relation to our borders, especially, and the liberty-robbing legislation that is being proposed (and will no doubt be signed into law) without so much as a word of it being reported in the major media, the major focus of the edition of Hannity and Colmes that I watched a few days ago was on the continuing ‘feud’ between Trump and O’Donnell.

The media may be consistently (and with great relish) playing the bread-and-circuses card because that is what the lazy, apathetic American public craves, but ninety-five percent of the ‘news’ they report/analyze is a grotesque insult to any thinking person.

It is our national sloth, more than anything else, that will be our undoing.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

39 posted on 01/13/2007 9:49:43 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

Wow! Now I don't know how well I'LL sleep tonight!

Anyone read George Orwell's 1984 recently??

I bought a copy of it a few years ago and re-read it. It may be time to get it off the shelf again.

When the Socialist Democrats succeed in silencing the general population, they'll have the mainstream media, academia and the loud leftwing whackos, all spouting their Marxist slogans. - - - - - - - Goodbye to America.

Hail to Big Brother!


40 posted on 01/16/2007 6:13:52 PM PST by GVNR (Liberal polichees arr the best ting forr amerca! T. Kennedy - (hic))
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To: processing please hold

"My poor grandchildren will never know the country I grew up in."

You're right. Mine won't either.

How CAN we describe what the 50's were like - the innocence - pretty-much the "leave it to beaver" life, the afternoons on a bicycle, the warm summer evenings sitting outside on the porch just looking at the stars, the playing in the street, the neighbor kids getting together and doing - doing - whatever popped into their minds, and then finally realizing that it was getting late,- - - - - - going home to mom's cooking, having a nice warm bath and plopping into bed and falling asleep with the windows open and the front door unlocked, and then.....and then waking the following morning and starting-out on another day's "new adventure".

I fear that there won't be anything TO read that accurately says what America WAS. It will probably be referenced as failed-capitalism - doomed by the greed of the evil rich.


41 posted on 01/16/2007 6:42:58 PM PST by GVNR (Liberal polichees arr the best ting forr amerca! T. Kennedy - (hic))
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To: GVNR
I can close my eyes and see all the things you described that filled my childhood. Me and my sister taking off in the morning after eating breakfast, her riding on the handle bars as I peddled. If we got thirsty on our journey to anywhere, we just knocked on any door and asked for a drink of water. They'd tell us,'come on to the kitchen' and we'd follow them.

I'm sure there was bad back them but we didn't hear about it or see it. We lived and played in an innocent time.

There was one rule they made us obey, and we never broke it, It was always the last thing we heard mama say, "be home by dark".

What a glorious age that was to be a kid in.

42 posted on 01/16/2007 7:49:21 PM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I have to wonder if anyone "a year or two younger" read these last couple comments and wondered if they were indeed true.

If any of you "out there" did read them and wonder:
The answer is yes.


43 posted on 01/17/2007 8:22:12 PM PST by GVNR (He who refuses to learn from the past is doomed to repeat it..)
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To: GVNR

Yes, it's true. A bygone era. *sigh*


44 posted on 01/17/2007 9:32:32 PM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: EternalVigilance
Those who will not be constrained by the Constitution of the United States will not be constrained by anything

You think they would be constrained by a 700+ grain .50 caliber bullet traveling at around 2,500 to 3,00 feet per second?

It's no wonder many of the sponsors are also big time gun grabbers.

45 posted on 01/17/2007 10:21:30 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: joanie-f

46 posted on 01/17/2007 10:23:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: philetus
Boon we'll be forced to print handbills on manual printing presses in our basements under the threat of execution if caught.

As long as even using manual presses was illegal, might as well use laser printers. In for a dime, in for a dollar.

47 posted on 01/17/2007 10:29:49 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Minuteman23
This one needs to be shouted from the rooftops, or that option may be taken away too!

Why that would be easy. Shouting from rooftops is dangerous. You might fall on a child. Gotta ban that. [/sarc

48 posted on 01/17/2007 10:34:51 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

As long as even using manual presses was illegal, might as well use laser printers."

Modern printers will all have a implanted chip that sends copies of everything to the D.A.C.S.(Dept. of American Citizen Surveillance).Any attempt to remove or deactivate it will detonate a miniture neutron bomb and you will be fined $5000.00.


49 posted on 01/17/2007 10:47:15 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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