Posted on 01/14/2007 5:48:30 PM PST by conservativeinferno
(Greenville-AP) January 14, 2007 - US Senator Christopher Dodd calls Sunday for the removal of the Confederate flag that flies at the South Carolina Statehouse. The Connecticut Democrat was attending a Martin Luther King Junior memorial event at a Greenville church Sunday night.
He says black and white young people from South Carolina are fighting under one flag in Iraq and Afghanistan. Dodd says the Confederate flag belongs in a museum.
Dodd will be at the King Day at the Dome rally at the Statehouse Monday. The event was started six years ago as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People launched economic sanctions against South Carolina to force the flag from the Capitol dome.
It was moved from there and put out front at the Confederate Soldier Monument on Statehouse grounds.
Oh, no question. I can't believe how stunningly obvious it is.
It is a great consolation to me knowing that their children will grow up speaking with a southern twang and loving everything about the South that the parents hated.
Dodd needs to worry about screwing up his own state and leave the south alone.
Perhaps you can understand it this way:
How about I come into your house as a guest and try to tell you what to do. You probably won't like it at all.
Basically this is the same thing. Add in the fact, it is a NE Yankee liberal and it doesn't get any better.
"Dodd should shut up. As if the Irish ever gave a flip about blacks--in Connecticut or anywhere else."
Who said Dodd was Irish. The other part of your statement is pretty effing ignorant.
Check HIM out. As for the rest, the Irish have never been in the forefront of civil rights for anyone.
Shall we call for Senator Dodd's removal from the statehouse grounds, too?
Funny he choose to say this on the day before MLK Day
Maybe it was different in your part of the world, but in the part of the South where my people were, the reb government was terrible. Much more oppressive than anything that ever came from Washington. When the Union army advanced in this part of Dixie they were hailed as liberators.
Quote: "The Confederate Flag is not a flag a symbol of racism the flag dose not offend me personally. I grew up in the South in Texas, that flag dosen't represent anything other then regioanl pride. It's a time of our history that we can't just erase." Laura Bush
There's an old joke--"it's a Southern thang, you wouldn't understand." That kind of applies here.
It really is, to an extent, a "Southern thing." It's hard for somebody who didn't grow up down here (I grew up 25 miles from Appomattox, FYI) to understand the pervasive hold that the WBTS has in parts of the South. If you think about it, the South is the only large part of the United States since 1814 that has known what it's like to be occupied by a foreign power (taking Hawaii from the natives excepted). Hundreds of thousands of Southerners died in that war. An entire generation was decimated. Cities were destroyed (almost every historical marker in Columbia ends with "...burned by Union troops on February 17, 1865"). The South suffered military occupation for up to 12 years. The Southern economy was shattered for a generation or more.
But even beyond that is the attitude of the rest of the country. I know I'm damned sick of anyplace Southern being a laughingstock to New York and Hollywood. When was the last time you saw a positive portrayal of race relations in the South in the media? When was the last time you saw a white non-liberal non-"enlightened" Southerner portrayed in a good light? When was the last time you heard about the bravery of those men who wore the gray and fought for their homes against what they saw as a rampaging, invading army? It's like we're STILL being held responsible for what John C. Calhoun and the boys decided to do in December 1860 and the repercussions thereof. Hell, we have to jump through hoops on things like redistricting that other states don't have to (thanks to the renewal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act), even after having proven again and again that there is no institutional racism left down here.
So it's a big middle finger to the haters, in some ways. It's a way of telling the liberal northeasterners and the NAACP race pimps and the "diversity" crowd that they can't erase my history. Call me a hick, call me a redneck, call me an inbreed, but I'm still proud of who I am and where I'm from, and I'm going to defend the history of my home, and of men like Lee and Jackson and Stuart and all the others. A lot of people use it as a hearty "screw you." Others are passionate about preserving the history of the WBTS. Some fall into both categories.
The particular situation in SC is simple. That flag is a battle standard. It was never one of the three political flags of the Confederacy. It was the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, and it stands behind a monument to South Carolina's WBTS dead that's been on those grounds since the late 1800s. It's a soldier's flag, at a soldier's memorial, so I guess I fail to see what the problem is.
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"That's the issue - the Confederate flag represents a sovereign nation outside the United States."
No offense, but you don't know much about US history, do you? We are discussing the Confederate Battle Flag, not the flag of the Confederacy (Bonnie Blue) which I have only seen flown in one place.
In the park in my homtown, seven flags fly, one for every nation that that ruled that territory. Bonnie Blue is one of them. The CBF is not there.
Nobody here is denying being part of the US. We just don't mind letting you know what part.
We catch hell in the South. Some folks accuse us of being jingoistic, flag-waving, hayper-patriotic US nationalists and others accuse us of denying the United States.
Why don't you people make up your minds? ;-)
"That's a really big question. Where does their allegiance lie?"
Ok, slick, why don't you put your list together who gets to be a "good" American and who doesn't and present it here for review.
You (along with that guy from Connecticut) apparently have a problem with your fellow southerners, you seem to indicate that we are not worthy of our American citizenship.
Why don't you articulate your issues with southerners who have no problem with the confederate flag in front of the SC statehouse in a direct, non-emotional way (as you yourself requested of some) - instead of asking questions that skirt the issue?
Don't be afraid to speak your mind directly.
Now, what exactly was your point??
D*** Yankee - go home!
Well said!
This azzclown Dodd also said that Communism was inevitable back in the mid 1980s. I got this from a Charles Krauthammer column.
I always thought the Civil War was to free Grant's personal slaves.
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