This photo:
Was used in commie propaganda by sneaking German officers in where they weren't originally:
Posted on 01/16/2007 12:17:36 PM PST by Bokababe
LAS VEGAS // President Bush recently echoed Vice President Dick Cheney's support for Croatia to join the European Union, a bid that has been stalled because of the former Yugoslav republic's slowness to own up to and prosecute its 1990s war crimes and its failure to ensure protections and rights for minorities, including returning Serb refugees.
Croatia also faces the possibility of being excluded from the 2008 European soccer championship because when an Italian team's fans taunted the Croatian team's fans at a match in August by waving Yugoslavia's old communist flag, the other side took great offense and showed the competition what it was really made of: They formed a giant human swastika and gave Nazi salutes....
(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...
And the Chetniks were on the side of the Axis...on Hitler's and Mussolini's side, as evidenced by their role in Operation Weiss.
You regurgitate an awful lot of Communist propaganda for someone who claims to be an anti-communist. The truth isn't communist propaganda. The Chetniks were on the Axis side during Operation Weiss and Operation Schwartz. And for most of WW2....particularly the end.
This photo:
Was used in commie propaganda by sneaking German officers in where they weren't originally:
But the point still stands: the overwhelming number of Serb Chetniks collaborated with Hitler for the majority of the war.
Interesting, German forces in Serbia were killing Chetnik supporters because Chetniks "were on the Axis side"
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Perhaps in your twisted world where Croats were anti-Nazis and Serbs Nazis during WWII.
I notice that the Croats and Muslims in their images/photos allegedly depicting Serb collaborations with the Germans or atrocities, that they all are exceedingly grainy (as the fake above) and there is a phoniness of the placement of people, proportions, shading, etc. They are using the stock photos made during Tito's rule.
DTA: The Germans did conduct a raid against the 5% of Chetniks that had not yet collaborated by 1943. These were the ones directly under Draza's command. However shortly after this raid even Draza's small number of Chetniks started receiving arms from the Nazis and collaborating with them in anti-Partisan sweeps.
Joan: Don't you find it interesting that the vast majority of Serbian Chetniks never fought the Axis but instead fought with them on their side?
I think you were fed to many lies by your Ustasha Grandpop.
"Then you tell us how many ethnic Croats were imprisoned by the Germans during WWII.
You ever hear of any? Can you name any?"
Well, for the starters the croatian political figura No 1 Vlatko Macek was a prisoner of Jasenovac concentration camp. let's not forget that 30% of prisoners were croatian political oponents to Ustashis.
My grandfathers brother was a prisoner in concentration camp in Hungary. My grandmothers brother was taken together with grand-grandmother and grand-grandfather. Both of them died but my grandmothers brother suriveved but lost track of his family. We found him in 1970's, he became a priest.
Famous Croatian writer Miskina was murdered in Jasenovac by the Ustashi, also poet Goran Kovacic and in my home home town in N. Croatia in October 1944, 39 Croats were hanged. Many more shot in the nearby brick factory (my distant relative escaped, just before the shooting and joined Partizans)
Thousands of "Domobrani" (Home Guard) were shot, for refusing to fight for the Ustashi.
Hello gentlemen....fellow Hrvat here from Livno.
What about Serbian crimes? Anything to say here?
It is not the topic. The article is about extermination of Serbs, Jews and Roma in Nazi Croatia during WWII and attempts to hide thoose heinous crimes today.
Now that's propaganda, I would venture to guess that the rescued airmen would refute your statements. Croatia's Nazi alliance is an albatross, nothing like a guilty conscience to inspire such stupidity. You're an inspiration for revisionist everywhere.
No, actually the article is about imposing a Nazi label on Croats in order to compromise the support that Croatia is getting from the US and the EU while progressing towards the EU membership. It is also about shifting the general "principal villain of the Balkans" perception from Serbs to Croats. That's what the article is about. Therefore, the discussion about Serbian crimes fits the topic well enough.
It is not possible to "impose Nazi label" on Croatia because Croatia's Nazi past is part of historical record and Croatia is proud of her Nazi past.
Mile Budak was a minister of religion in Croatian Nazi government during WWII. He publicly declared the official policy of Croatian Nazi State:
On one occasion, he declared:
"“The basis for the Ustashe movement is religion. For minorities such as the Serbs, Jews, and Gypsies, we have three million bullets. We will kill a part of the Serbs. Others we will deport, and the rest we will force to accept the Roman Catholic Religion. Thus the new Croatia will be rid of all Serbs in its midst in order to be 100% Catholic within 10 years.”
The intent to commit genocide is the key element of genocide.
In today's Croatia Mile Budak has streets named after him as well as other Nazi ideologues and Nazi criminals.
Calling Croatia Nazi state is not a label, it is statement of the fact.
Croatia has a special place among Hilter's allies - the only minor axis power that has operated extermionation camps of her own comparable to those of Hitler's. Croatia was the only country in history that operated extermination camps fo r children. Croatia's extrermination policies were so savage and brutal that even Nazis were shocked.
Hiding behind "we were only one of 15 countries allied with Hitler" fig leaf can not hide the ugly fact. Germany and Germans have admitted guilt for genocide. Croatia and Croats never have and never will as the posts on this thread demonstrate.
When schools, kindergartens, squatres and streets have names of Nazi criminals, it is a sign that genocide is not something that happened "two or three generations ago". It is living history, for victims and perpetrators alike.
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