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Spain seeks US soldiers' arrest
BBC ^ | 1/16/07 | n/a

Posted on 01/16/2007 3:49:36 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

Spain has issued an international arrest warrant for three US soldiers accused of causing the death of a TV cameraman during the Iraq war.

Jose Couso, 37, died in April 2003 after a US tank fired on a hotel used by foreign journalists in Baghdad.

The US has admitted its tank crew fired at the Palestine Hotel but has cleared Sgt Thomas Gibson, Cpt Philip Wolford and Lt-Col Philip De Camp of blame.

The soldiers say they thought they were being shot at when they opened fire.

Caught on film

The Palestine Hotel was the base for almost all the foreign media crews in Baghdad during the US-led invasion of Iraq. Mr Couso was working for Spain's Telecinco television station at the time.

Reuters cameraman Taras Portsyuk, a Ukrainian, was also killed in the blast and three other Reuters staff injured.

Footage of the incident on the day before the fall of the regime of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein - which did not record any fire from the hotel - was witnessed around the world.

A US review of the incident ruled that the use of force by the tank was justified, but the family of Mr Couso decided to press criminal charges through the Spanish courts.

Freeze on assets

Spain's Supreme Court re-opened a murder investigation into Mr Couso's death in December 2006, overturning a previous ruling that the Spanish legal system was competent to judge the three US soldiers.

As he issued the international search-and-capture order for the three tank crew members, Judge Santiago Pedraz demanded that prosecutors also investigate whether it was possible to freeze the soldiers' US assets in case of future compensation claims.

The BBC's Danny Wood in Madrid says Spain's justice system is accustomed to taking on controversial international cases.

In 1998, Spain attempted to extradite Chile's former leader, Augusto Pinochet, while he was in London.

The British government turned down that request, and the US authorities are very unlikely to co-operate with this latest international arrest warrant issued by a Spanish judge, our correspondent says.

But four years after the death of Mr Couso, his family have achieved a symbolic victory, he says.


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1 posted on 01/16/2007 3:49:36 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

I'm sure the soldiers are terrified of the Spanish "justice" system. /s


2 posted on 01/16/2007 3:52:37 PM PST by The Blitherer (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. -Reagan)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Spanish Iquisition?
(OK - have at it.....)


3 posted on 01/16/2007 3:52:47 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: kiriath_jearim
But four years after the death of Mr Couso, his family have achieved a symbolic victory, he says.

I suppose that's all that matters to some people.

4 posted on 01/16/2007 3:55:28 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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What will happen once the International Criminal Court system is in place?

This sort of thing will not seem quite so funny.


5 posted on 01/16/2007 3:55:40 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: xcamel

How about a class action suit on behalf of all Hispanics against Spain for plundering the New World, stealing gold from Amerindians, making slaves of them, and killing huge numbers of them with their diseases (germ warfare).


6 posted on 01/16/2007 3:55:55 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Dear Spain,

Piss off, you surrender monkey appeasers!


7 posted on 01/16/2007 3:55:55 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I don't know what to think about Spain right now. Initially they helped us in the War on Terror, but after 3/11 and electing Zapatero they've gone down the wrong road. From what I hear Zapatero's popularity has taken a nosedive after the recent airport bombing (since he had basically surrendered to ETA beforehand). I have a feeling that Zapatero's reign of surrender will probably only be temporary and that Spain will swing right during the next elections (similar to Colombia with Álvaro Uribe) as the Spanish have learned the hard way that surrendering to these monsters doesn't work.

Nonetheless, since they helped us out in the beginning of Iraq, I refuse to dig on Spain.


8 posted on 01/16/2007 3:58:28 PM PST by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I think I speak for all of us here when I say "Over my dead twitching corpse will you take my countrymen!"


9 posted on 01/16/2007 3:59:04 PM PST by Patriot28 (1775-2006 Celebrating 231 years of excellence! Semper Fi my brothers!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

As the US has ruled that the soldiers were acting properly within the scope of their duty, the actions taken by these soldiers were not in their individual capacities but instead as agents of the United States of America.

The only proper party for Spain to seek action against is the United States of America.

So Spain, what's it going to be? Are you with us, or the terrorists?


10 posted on 01/16/2007 4:01:11 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: kiriath_jearim

When you go to a war zone you should have a decent expectation that you may get shot at.

Now in spite of what Journalists feel they do not have immunity to death or disfigurement while trying to sell their stinking news articles./

If you wlak out in the middle of the Capital beltway at 4:30 pm chancs are you will get hit.

I dont see how any country with common sense can feel that a soldier doing his duty has a responsibility to check for press credentials before firing .


11 posted on 01/16/2007 4:05:39 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: Patriot28

wow, stole the words out of my mouth. glad i read the whole thing before posting.

They are technically American citizins, so it's our job to put them on trial so spain can just suffer


12 posted on 01/16/2007 4:12:14 PM PST by dudewheresmytank (Washington says hello dems, goodbye liberty.)
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To: burzum

We have lived on the Med coast of Spain and loved the Spanish people. But very disappointed in them in general after their 3/11 and have no desire to ever return for a visit. Other than that - I will not dig on them either. The timing of the bombing, the panic among the people, and the election all played a part.


13 posted on 01/16/2007 4:17:29 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: daybreakcoming; Patriot28
Whoops - did mean to add that I stand with Patriot28

"I think I speak for all of us here when I say "Over my dead twitching corpse will you take my countrymen!"

14 posted on 01/16/2007 4:20:28 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: kiriath_jearim
Spaniards,like most Western and Central Europeans,are cowards.It will be fun to watch them go on trial,in Spain,in "sharia" courts.
15 posted on 01/16/2007 4:40:09 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Where's the pic? Not this sh*t again!


16 posted on 01/16/2007 4:41:46 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Spaniards,like most Western and Central Europeans,are cowards.It will be fun to watch them go on trial,in Spain,in "sharia" courts.

They are not cowards. They were with us in the beginning during the Iraq War, but they lost their confidence. Now they have to learn the hard way that appeasing does not work. But they will be back on the right side in a few years. Aznar was a great leader for Spain and it was just terrible that they kicked him out of office. But there are other leaders who will throw out Zapatero.

Additionally, it is probably not nice to flame every Western and Central European nation. Personally, I am most angry that you have called the Germans cowards. It is uncalled for and you should apologize to all of our German FReepers (as well as any other Western and European FReepers).

Remember, the US originally opposed entering both WWI and WWII even though our allies said that it was something that could not be delayed and would eventually threaten our freedom (like we are telling them in the current war). Would you have called the US cowards if you were British or French then? Just because our allies haven't fought to the same degree that we have in this war doesn't mean that they won't. They are just slower to get involved.

17 posted on 01/16/2007 5:03:32 PM PST by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I met Col de Camp only after this story came out when I realized that he taught an advanced calculus class that took place in the same room as one of my english classes. Sharp guy, really nice.

What's happening here is a mockery of justice.
18 posted on 01/16/2007 5:03:38 PM PST by Live free or die
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To: burzum

typo: Western and Central European...


19 posted on 01/16/2007 5:04:16 PM PST by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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So, they can't go to Spain. Well, who wants to go there anyway? I've been. No need to return.
A question: Would a Barack Hussein Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton administration give these guys up? Both are liberal lawyers committed to the "rule of international law." Both are eager for the approval of America hating Euro-socialists like the gang in Madrid. Neither considers the US Armed Forces as a constituency. When the presidential campaign begins in earnest, both must be asked about this. So it's on the record.
20 posted on 01/16/2007 5:16:15 PM PST by Godwin1
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